Comments on: Afternoon Notes: Jason Grilli update, Giancarlo Stanton news (sort of) http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/afternoon-notes-jason-grilli-update-giancarlo-stanton-news-sort-of.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Fri, 19 Sep 2014 14:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: buster09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/afternoon-notes-jason-grilli-update-giancarlo-stanton-news-sort-of.html#comment-32354 Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:59:06 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=61526#comment-32354 Starling Marte’ has the same exact approach right now as when he arrived in AA ball 3 seasons ago. If he doesn’t want to change his approach,which I suspect he may never do,he needs to be further down the lineup where he can swing out of his shoes till he drops from exhaustion,not getting 4 ABs a game with nobody on base in front of him.

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By: buster09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/afternoon-notes-jason-grilli-update-giancarlo-stanton-news-sort-of.html#comment-32353 Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:54:17 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=61526#comment-32353 Note to James Santelli and the rest of the we just gotta get Stanton at any cost crowd . This is Joe Posnanski on the Myers trade to the Rays : ” It was just a wise-guy tweet, I know. ?Too soon,? many people wrote back. But somewhere inside there, maybe, there was a point worth making. Before the season began, the Royals traded Myers for Shields — with several other subsidiary players making it a six-player deal — and I along with many other people despised the deal for the Royals. If you are a team like the Royals (small market, limited resources, longtime loser) you NEVER trade one of the game?s best prospects just as he is about to come to the major leagues. Never.
And if you do ? well, no, you don?t don?t do it. Not ever. ” He says it all right there ! We are talking about trading two of the top 25 prospects in the game,one of whom ( Polanco ) who is arguably in the Top freakin 5 yet !

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By: bqjd http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/afternoon-notes-jason-grilli-update-giancarlo-stanton-news-sort-of.html#comment-32344 Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:51:07 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=61526#comment-32344 By that rationale, no hitting coach could ever be blamed. He could merely say that the players never asked for help. A coach is always the coach and should be helping his players whether they ask for help or not. And the fact that they are young free swingers is even more reason he should be helping them establish a plan and making them realize why that plan is a good idea.

If they are not going to him for help, which I don’t agree has to happen first, then Bell needs to take some more initiative and establish a plan or what pitch to look for or what part of the plate for each batter.

It drives me crazy when they are down late in a game and need an extra base hit and they let fast balls down the middle go by. Before the at bat, bell should be telling them to sit on fastball until two strikes. It is the best pitch to drive.

Or tell Pedro never to swing at a pitch down and away unless there are two strikes.

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By: IC Bob http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/afternoon-notes-jason-grilli-update-giancarlo-stanton-news-sort-of.html#comment-32343 Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:36:32 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=61526#comment-32343 Guys the hitting coach helps when guys ask for it. If it was so easy to turn free swingers into patient players it would have been done long before these guys get to the bug leagues. What we see is a young team where everyone wants to be a hero. As the season and the careers of our young players continue I think we will start seeing what we want however their will be ugly moments. Its baseball!

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By: Stephen Brooks http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/afternoon-notes-jason-grilli-update-giancarlo-stanton-news-sort-of.html#comment-32327 Sat, 27 Jul 2013 02:44:50 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=61526#comment-32327 Sacrilege, and 100% true. Set aside for a moment that tonight’s effort in Miami was about as uninspired a performance as I’ve seen out of this team all year – blame it on the long flight, the humidity and playing in front of a small crowd. Whatever. The RISP conversion, 2-strike approach, first ball swinging, corresponding number of strikeouts and lack of walks is all really depressing. Everyone, to a man, is at fault, even Cutch.

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By: jamminjoe66 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/afternoon-notes-jason-grilli-update-giancarlo-stanton-news-sort-of.html#comment-32326 Sat, 27 Jul 2013 01:50:51 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=61526#comment-32326 When Jay played for Pittsburgh he drove me nuts to watch him hit. He stood 10′ from home plate and could do absolutely nothing with the outer 1/3. Now I watch Martin, Cutch to name a couple who do the same. MLB pitchers try to throw 75% of their pitches there. Makes no sense

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By: Y2JGQ2 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/afternoon-notes-jason-grilli-update-giancarlo-stanton-news-sort-of.html#comment-32325 Sat, 27 Jul 2013 01:46:29 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=61526#comment-32325 considering the reason they hired Jay Bell was specifically to help with situational hitting based on his ML past, it is dumbfounding that we struggle so much to make contact. Most of the time, the only player who looks like they have a plan is Russell Martin, everyone else is like, “see ball, swing as hard as I can” I’ve seen certain players make concerted efforts, especially Garrett Jones when he’s allowed to hit vs. lefties. He really gets locked in, tries to take the ball the other way, and I give him credit for that. Marte is either trying to pull the ball or get hit- thats it. McCutchen has no approach at all, neither does walker or gabby, pedro occasionally does but rarely….its a mess

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By: bqjd http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/afternoon-notes-jason-grilli-update-giancarlo-stanton-news-sort-of.html#comment-32324 Sat, 27 Jul 2013 01:13:52 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=61526#comment-32324 When does Jay Bell start taking some heat? Forget about the number of guys who seem to under performing, their situational hitting has been horrendous, and, they strike out a ton. A lot of this to me seems to be a poor approach at the plate. They swing at pitches early in the count that even If they make contact they won’t get a hit. More times than I can possibly count have let fastballs go right the middle without even flinching.

I don’t know enough to comment on a players actual swing, but I can tell when a batter has no plan going into an at bat. While some of this falls on the players themselves, the hitting coach has to take some of the blame. And when a lot of players have no plan for their at bats, a lot of the blame should fall on the hitting coach.

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By: Alex Henry http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/afternoon-notes-jason-grilli-update-giancarlo-stanton-news-sort-of.html#comment-32323 Fri, 26 Jul 2013 23:11:19 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=61526#comment-32323 I disagree with you so much i don’t even know where to start

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By: Joseph Caldrone http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/afternoon-notes-jason-grilli-update-giancarlo-stanton-news-sort-of.html#comment-32322 Fri, 26 Jul 2013 22:56:17 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=61526#comment-32322 I hope we don’t panic and dump the future for Stanton. For the past week we have read it is a sellers market. Why over pay? Look at what it cost the Rangers for Garza. Hold the line NH. Why not release Snider, promote Lambo and wait for the waiver deadline. We have time. We have a good team. Do not do what the Brewers did and kill our future for a good season. We are built for the long run.

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