Comments on: First Pitch: Brandon Inge is a Leader, But the Pirates Have Different Needs http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-brandon-inge-is-a-leader-but-the-pirates-have-different-needs.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sun, 07 Sep 2014 12:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: brilemon http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-brandon-inge-is-a-leader-but-the-pirates-have-different-needs.html#comment-30841 Tue, 09 Jul 2013 20:05:51 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59937#comment-30841 If a leader = 10 wins, here is a sure fire line-up of managers and GMs to get to 90:
1.) Gibson – lf
2.) Hurdle / Manuel- rf
3.) Brett – 3b
4.) Mattingly – 1b
5.) Weiss/ Washington – ss
6.) Francona – cf
7.) Girardi / Matheny- c
8.) Sveum – 2b
9.) Nolan Freaking Ryan – P

Sign them up, all they have to do is stand there and we will get 10 wins each.

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By: stickyweb http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-brandon-inge-is-a-leader-but-the-pirates-have-different-needs.html#comment-30832 Tue, 09 Jul 2013 18:34:27 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59937#comment-30832 That’s funny Todd, when somebody said “let him pick up the towels in the clubhouse”, the first thing I thought of was getting him some kind of coaches position. But does he instantly lose his rapport with the players when he becomes “management”?

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By: stickyweb http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-brandon-inge-is-a-leader-but-the-pirates-have-different-needs.html#comment-30831 Tue, 09 Jul 2013 18:25:38 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59937#comment-30831 You don’t have to look too far. I picked the Cardinals to check first since all the naysayers think they’ll win the division and the pennant, so it’d be interesting to see how far behind the Bucs are.

Lo and behold, their bench has Ty Wiggington at .158/.238/.193, Tony Cruz at .171/.209/.220 and Shane Robinson at .226/.354/.339 (at least he walks a ton, but I always chuckle when the slugging is less than the on base %)

Anywho, I won’t check the other 28 teams but I’ll assume the 2 best teams in baseball aren’t the extreme exceptions. Yes the Fort has been disappointing but back up catchers are back ups for a reason. If they could hit and play great defense, they’d be starting somewhere. Just be thankful we have Sanchez to come up if anything (God forbid) happens to Martin.

They need Barmes because nobody else plays SS (unless you want to trust Mercer as the starter and Harrison as the back up…I doubt anyone is comfortable with that).

I’d say the other 2 spots on the bench (either Gaby, Snider, Tabby or Garrett) are the real problem. Jones is the only one that plays more than 1 position, so there’s no flexibility. And none of them are producing off the bench, yet it’s probably too early to cut bait with the first 2 and the latter 2 have produced some results in the past plus there’s Tabby’s contract, so are you going to cut any of them?

In summary (I know, it’s too late for that now), I think it’s highly debatable that Harrison or DeJesus provides much over Inge on the field and maybe we should just take some of these former teammates at their word. You can always say something nice about anybody, but these guys are downright effusive, so maybe there’s actually something to it. It’s laughable that one guy’s intangibles resulted in 10 additional wins, even more laughable that 2 guys accounted for 24 additional wins. But maybe it’s just as laughable that a 2 – 5 stretch of the schedule should outweigh the entire first half of the season. The Bucs defintiely had something going in the first half, let’s at least give tem until the AS break before making changes for change’s sake.

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By: Todd Shevchik http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-brandon-inge-is-a-leader-but-the-pirates-have-different-needs.html#comment-30829 Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:43:38 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59937#comment-30829 I have the problem solved.
Make Brandon Inge the third base coach and Nick Leyva a special bench coach.
Solves both problems.

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By: Monkshot http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-brandon-inge-is-a-leader-but-the-pirates-have-different-needs.html#comment-30828 Tue, 09 Jul 2013 16:37:40 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59937#comment-30828 I agree Buster09 and I believe Hurdle will have Mercer at 2nd with Barmes at short tonight.

I guessing if Walker goes on the DL the FO brings up Harrison. The FO knows what he gives you and still has 2? options left. I would hope DeJesus would get a look but he’s a mystery as to what he would give you, is out of options and would have to be added to the 40 man. I doubt the front office would make that move considering all of that.

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By: smurph http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-brandon-inge-is-a-leader-but-the-pirates-have-different-needs.html#comment-30827 Tue, 09 Jul 2013 16:36:56 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59937#comment-30827 I’m not going to look it up, but I’ll bet the farm there is not another ML team that has 3 bench players hitting under .210, two of them under .200. This on a contending team?

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-brandon-inge-is-a-leader-but-the-pirates-have-different-needs.html#comment-30825 Tue, 09 Jul 2013 16:25:46 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59937#comment-30825 Inge did play better in Oakland than he had in Detroit and when the Tigers outed him, the light went off in his head that he would be out of baseball and playing church softball if he did not show something. At Oakland, expectations were low and he batted 300 times and got 13 doubles, 11 HR’s, and 52 RBI’s. That got him the contract with the Pirates. He had a great start and then nothing. About 6 or 7 games ago he had a nice day in Seattle and again, nothing since. But, just like with Snider, he is just one of the guys who is not hitting. The Pirates are having a hard time scoring runs and where they were getting out in front in games, they are now putting up a lot of ZEROES until they fall behind. We may have to go to a small ball approach and see if we can get a run early so that our pitchers can pitch with confidence. Alvarez does an Ole on missing the tag on Lowrie and then he scores, and ‘Cutch gets robbed on a ball that would have put the Bucs ahead in the 7th – great diving catch by Covelli. When it is going bad, crap happens. Someone just tell me why Inge is in the lineup – where is Neil Walker? Only around 125 games last year, and this year he is on a similar pace – I tuned in to hear a result of the MRI, but then I heard that he decided not to have an MRI?

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By: Ron Loreski http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-brandon-inge-is-a-leader-but-the-pirates-have-different-needs.html#comment-30823 Tue, 09 Jul 2013 16:24:41 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59937#comment-30823 Do you expect a backup catcher to be able to hit or throw runners out? Psh *sarcasm*

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By: Ron Loreski http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-brandon-inge-is-a-leader-but-the-pirates-have-different-needs.html#comment-30822 Tue, 09 Jul 2013 16:22:35 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59937#comment-30822 When are people going to realize Josh Harrison is nothing but a AAA player. He will never come close to those numbers in the majors. I would give DeJesus a shot before Harrison again.

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By: Jeremy J Stein http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-brandon-inge-is-a-leader-but-the-pirates-have-different-needs.html#comment-30819 Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:30:02 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59937#comment-30819 I like this. Why start Inge when even Barmes is better with the bat, put Barmes at short and play Mercer at 2nd.

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