Comments on: First Pitch: Remember All of Those High Beta Players From the Off-Season? http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-remember-all-of-those-high-beta-players-from-the-off-season.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Fri, 14 Nov 2014 05:48:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 By: buster09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-remember-all-of-those-high-beta-players-from-the-off-season.html#comment-31754 Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:28:45 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60952#comment-31754 Matt ; Pedro’s AB that you mention might not have been quite as bad if he wouldn’t have taken that BP fastball in the middle for strike one. I love the guy,but like Marte’,he can leave me cussing at the TV.

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By: buster09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-remember-all-of-those-high-beta-players-from-the-off-season.html#comment-31753 Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:25:42 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60952#comment-31753 jon6er : +3 on the Pedro positioning. Baffled the hell out of me !

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By: Gates http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-remember-all-of-those-high-beta-players-from-the-off-season.html#comment-31748 Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:02:54 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60952#comment-31748 Don’t get me wrong, I love Marte and think he will end up being a beast for us, but a Ricky Henderson he is not. I remember watching Ricky and those A’s teams growing up and they were awesome.

I loved using the A’s on RBI baseball for the NES, ah the good ol’ days!

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By: Matt Beam http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-remember-all-of-those-high-beta-players-from-the-off-season.html#comment-31746 Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:05:49 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60952#comment-31746 agree on the Defense last night. When Neal returns, I have to think Barmes has earned at least equal playing time at short with Mercer, his hitting has been much better lately while Mercer has regressed

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By: Matt Beam http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-remember-all-of-those-high-beta-players-from-the-off-season.html#comment-31745 Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:04:06 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60952#comment-31745 just imagine what Marte can become (or even Pedro for that matter) with better strike zone discipline… I’m less concerned about their walks and just being more disciplined/capable of only swinging at balls in the zone.

Last night was a classic example for both… PA went fishing for a slider in the dirt vs Parra in a crucial situation late in the game with runners on base.

Marte ended up singling vs Chapman in the 9th on a 3-2 pitch, but should never have been in that position as all 5 of those pitches that led to the 3-2 count were balls, Marte has to realize when down 2 in the 9th that he needs to find a way on base and if a pitcher is struggling with control you have to be patient enough to take a walk… he’s a tremendous talent but his baserunning and plate approach sometimes leaving you cursing at the TV.

He’ll never steal as many bases but Marte’s all around game reminds me of Rickey Henderson with two HUGE differences, Marte is a much better OF but Rickey had great plate discipline

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By: jon6er http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-remember-all-of-those-high-beta-players-from-the-off-season.html#comment-31739 Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:15:48 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60952#comment-31739 Good defense and the Reds don’t score 5 runs. It is that simple. Jordy has a ball go under his glove which may have been a hit anyway or possibly an out but not a double play. But why Pedro is even with the bag in a one run game with the pitcher on third and a guy on first and one out is fricking ridiculous. He needs to be at double play depth. If he playing where he should it is an inning ending double play. What was the coaching staff’s reasoning for that? It is ludicrous if it was to have a play at the plate with the pitcher running (and yes we all know Leake is a good athlete) and the double play in order. I have seen some of these “unique” Hurdle defenses cost us some games already.

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By: emjayinTN http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-remember-all-of-those-high-beta-players-from-the-off-season.html#comment-31737 Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:29:16 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60952#comment-31737 And yeas, the Pirates are very fortunate to have been successful in most of those cases, and you can even throw in Russell Martin, because he has meant much more to this team than I expected going into the season. A few other points – The White Sox have plenty of talent, but nothing seems to click. Rios got jerked out of the lineup last night for dogging out a ground ball that the SS ended up bobbling and would have given the WS a run if he would have hustled out of the box. Alexei Ramirez may be the only player in the majors who walks less than Marte and his offensive WAR is dropping substantially the past few years – not the type of player I want to invest in for the next few years. My personal opinion is that the Pirates have more than enough talent to win, and some players just need to step up and decide whether they want to be winners or not. And finally, is there any information on Walker’s injury, rehab?

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