Comments on: First Pitch: The Pirates Are Built For Short and Long Term Success http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-the-pirates-are-built-for-short-and-long-term-success.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:02:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: michaelbro8 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-the-pirates-are-built-for-short-and-long-term-success.html#comment-31640 Fri, 19 Jul 2013 03:36:37 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60744#comment-31640 Thanks Tim; I think a lot of us have been thinking the same thing. Looking at the farm system makes the Bucs future look bright for quite a while. But you’re right, there’s a big group of fans that want the Bucs to trade the future for a chance to win this season. The flaw in this thinking is that “all star” teams rarely win the World Series . I’d say player for player the Bucs match up pretty well with the Giants team that won it all last year . And the “big star” lineup: how’s that working out for the Angels and Dodgers this year ?

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By: Bryan Graham http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-the-pirates-are-built-for-short-and-long-term-success.html#comment-31613 Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:29:38 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60744#comment-31613 Sorry, but I have to at least temporarily disagree. I can completely agree when the pitching proves it can do it for a whole season. Maybe this will be the year but maybe it won’t. If it doesn’t hold up then there will be absolutely 0 difference from the teams the last 2 seasons as far as their success goes. Amazing pitching with a very subpar offense has been the story and is still the story, even with Cutch’s amazing 2 month stretch last season they were near the bottom of about every offensive category but the big problem wasn’t Cutch not tearing it up at the end of the season, it was the pitching took a nosedive. Lets just hope there are no “This team won’t collapse because……..” articles next year and they prove their legitimacy this season when it’s all said and done.

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By: buster09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-the-pirates-are-built-for-short-and-long-term-success.html#comment-31563 Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:27:06 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60744#comment-31563 The only prospect on here that I am not sold on is Bell. He is definitely going to have to get that hitch straightened out to be any kind of a productive hitter in MLB.

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By: buster09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-the-pirates-are-built-for-short-and-long-term-success.html#comment-31559 Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:20:46 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60744#comment-31559 Make me a + 3 Tim. I couldn’t agree with you more.

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By: stickyweb http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-the-pirates-are-built-for-short-and-long-term-success.html#comment-31551 Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:29:13 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60744#comment-31551 Henduck, keep this crap off a great site like this. Obviously Neal Huntington has not had anything to do with how well the Pirates are positioned as a franchise, both at the MLB level and in the minors. Clearly he should have been fired years ago because the Bay trade didn’t work out. :-)

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By: Cato the Elder http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-the-pirates-are-built-for-short-and-long-term-success.html#comment-31547 Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:55:07 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60744#comment-31547 Your 1 at bat in an All-Star game is what the statistically inclined would call a small-sample-size, and what damn near everyone else might call a single at bat in a worthless exhibition game.

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By: Cato the Elder http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-the-pirates-are-built-for-short-and-long-term-success.html#comment-31546 Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:53:08 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60744#comment-31546 “Polanco will have to go through what Marte is going through right now…”

Hahaha, a 125 wRC+ and 3.6 WAR is what Marte is “going through right now” which places him squarely as a top 5 LF in the majors right now (#3 in WAR behind Mike Trout and Carlos Gomez). I can’t wait to have to go through that some day with Polanco!

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By: Henduck http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-the-pirates-are-built-for-short-and-long-term-success.html#comment-31539 Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:32:40 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60744#comment-31539 I just want to give a tip of the cap to the much maligned Bob Nutting and Neil Huntington, who have made all of this possible. They have turned a garbage pile of a franchise into a competitive team with a bright future. Kudos, gentlemen!

Fans in this town are, for the most part, too jaded by 1993-2006 to objectively look at 2007-Present.

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By: leadoff http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-the-pirates-are-built-for-short-and-long-term-success.html#comment-31537 Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:19:46 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60744#comment-31537 The big problem is maturation, Marte and Mercer may not do better in the 2nd half, will they tighten up as the season progresses? The problem is still with the Core, they have not proven they can hit under pressure and the pressure this year will just get even bigger as we go down the road. McCutchen in the all-star game was a microcosm of what I am talking about, put him on the big stage and he won’t perform, where are you going without a 3 hitter?

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By: stickyweb http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/first-pitch-the-pirates-are-built-for-short-and-long-term-success.html#comment-31532 Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:05:45 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60744#comment-31532 I think everybody agrees they’re a work in progress, thus we think they could be improved with trades. It’s nice to be a work in progress 1 game off the best record in MLB instead of a work in progress 5 games under .500 wondering if you’re a buyer or seller at the deadline.

But the point is they don’t NEED to make a trade just to be a playoff contender, let alone that they need to trade away top prospects for instant gratification. Even if they stand pat, they have help just a phone call away. Black / Welker / Reid for the bullpen, Cumpton / Pimentel for the rotation (with Jeanmar and Wandy as options too), Lambo for 1B/RF, Sands / Canzler / Hague if they just want to add a platoon guy against LHP.

True Marte and Mercer are still developing, but that means they could be better the 2nd half than they have been so far too. Also true other prospects will need development time once they reach MLB, but if Polanco in his 1st season is what Marte is right now, the Bucs will be in great shape. For all his “inconsistency” he’s still OPS the same as Cutch and had fringe All Star talk. Show me a hitter that doesn’t have down time not named Cabrera (or Pujols in his prime). Even Cutch has slumps.

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