Comments on: Pirates’ Defensive Shifts: The Hidden Secret Behind Baseball’s Best Team http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/pirates-defensive-shifts-the-hidden-secret-behind-baseballs-best-team.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Mon, 14 Apr 2014 23:29:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: buster09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/pirates-defensive-shifts-the-hidden-secret-behind-baseballs-best-team.html#comment-30569 Thu, 04 Jul 2013 15:44:38 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59086#comment-30569 jon : I remember both the plays you mention,and like you,don’t remember specifically which games they were. However,if we do remember those,it does say something that we are talking about 2 games out of 83,and I myself thought the Mercer “interception”was more of a communication problem than a strategic error. Much the same as when a 2nd baseman and SS fail to inform one another who is covering on a steal attempt.

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By: jon6er http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/pirates-defensive-shifts-the-hidden-secret-behind-baseballs-best-team.html#comment-30567 Thu, 04 Jul 2013 14:14:36 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59086#comment-30567 Well, sometimes you can use a good thing too often. In one of the few games the Pirates have lost in recent memory (that’s an odd feeling) and I can’t remember which one, but the shift was employed with a runner on first which I’m not a fan of and a ball was hit to third and I was expecting a round the horn double play but there was no one at third. And the most recent example was Jordy Mercer trying to intercept Jones throw to Pedro who was at short. I just think too many things can go wrong with players out of position with runners on base and especially if a force play is in order.

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By: buster09 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/pirates-defensive-shifts-the-hidden-secret-behind-baseballs-best-team.html#comment-30566 Thu, 04 Jul 2013 14:12:04 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59086#comment-30566 Excellent column James. One aspect of this strategy that many commenters seem to forget is this : guys like Big Poppy,Ryan Howard,Steve Braun ,Prince Fielder and Pedro Alvarez are NOT being paid their money to go work on bunting the lines or slapping the ball through the open hole. Not to be sarcastic,but this ain’t the ‘ 50′s or ‘ 60′s MLB. If they do work on that,they are playing right into the strategy.

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By: brilemon http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/pirates-defensive-shifts-the-hidden-secret-behind-baseballs-best-team.html#comment-30562 Thu, 04 Jul 2013 11:03:14 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59086#comment-30562 Hey James, great writing, but… Ssssssssshhhhhhhh

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By: MaineBucs http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/pirates-defensive-shifts-the-hidden-secret-behind-baseballs-best-team.html#comment-30560 Thu, 04 Jul 2013 04:40:08 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59086#comment-30560 A while back some writers in Pittsburgh and some of the national media was ridiculing Pirate management over the ‘hoka’ and boot camp approach to the minors.

What a great piece that illustrates that Pirate management may be ahead of the curve in using defensive metrics and player positioning to gain a definite edge on the opposition. The most interesting piece of your article to me is how the Pirates are also using this approach in the minors. Provide training in the minors to help your players prepare for a similar system at the major leagues — Great!

A past criticism of the Pirates is that they had no organizational philosophy. This now clearly appears to no longer be the case.

While I don’t want to get too crazy here, if the Pirates keep this up, perhaps a movie director in Hollywood can recruit Matt Damon to play NH, since Beane got his own movie with Pitts. Turning around a franchise with 20 consecutive losing seasons would be even more miraculous than what Beane achieved in Oakland.

Great to see the crowds at the games, and they appear to be into the game, which was always the case when PNC first opened.

Oh — and just in case I didn’t say it strongly enough — this was a great article; well researched, well written and offering insights that I haven’t read anywhere else. Many thanks for doing the work.

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By: James Santelli http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/pirates-defensive-shifts-the-hidden-secret-behind-baseballs-best-team.html#comment-30559 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 21:19:59 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59086#comment-30559 “Anticipate objections.” :)

Thank you, Thom.

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By: Jeremy J Stein http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/pirates-defensive-shifts-the-hidden-secret-behind-baseballs-best-team.html#comment-30556 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 19:56:11 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59086#comment-30556 For most of those players, they can’t slap the ball the other way for the simple fact that they’re not good at it, they’re more likely going to strike out. Same thing with bunting, they just aren’t good at it because they don’t practice it enough.
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I’m with you though. If I were those players, I’d be in the batting cages working on something to counter the shift.

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By: Thom Kay http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/pirates-defensive-shifts-the-hidden-secret-behind-baseballs-best-team.html#comment-30555 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 19:54:00 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59086#comment-30555 ….which I now see was covered in the ESPN link.

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By: Thom Kay http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/pirates-defensive-shifts-the-hidden-secret-behind-baseballs-best-team.html#comment-30553 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 19:50:53 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59086#comment-30553 LD% is also down, while GB% is up. Good pitching has something to do with this.

Really great article!

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By: Kevin_Young http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/pirates-defensive-shifts-the-hidden-secret-behind-baseballs-best-team.html#comment-30552 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 19:46:31 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=59086#comment-30552 Very nice piece.

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