Comments on: Prospect Watch: Jameson Taillon Gets Hammered; Blake Taylor Makes His Debut http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/prospect-watch-jameson-taillon-gets-hammered-blake-taylor-makes-his-debut.html Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Sat, 26 Jul 2014 06:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 By: NastyNate82 http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/prospect-watch-jameson-taillon-gets-hammered-blake-taylor-makes-his-debut.html#comment-31196 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 03:18:07 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60354#comment-31196 Lighten up, you’re the one who’s all doom and gloom. And I actually said 15K per 9, but who’s counting. You need to define what you mean by dominating…you’ve said the same thing in every post without really defining what you’re after.
Winning record means nothing. The first half of the year, before Polanco got called up and Dickerson got hot, Altoona’s offense was Andrew Lambo and the 8 dwarves. Taillon has pitched quite well for almost the entire year. He’s tied for 5th in the organization in K’s. Your claim that he hasn’t done well in the last 4-5 starts (outside of last night) is wrong too. Look at the game log; the last 5 starts he had allowed no more than 2 runs in any of those games.

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By: BostonsCommon http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/prospect-watch-jameson-taillon-gets-hammered-blake-taylor-makes-his-debut.html#comment-31195 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 03:05:31 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60354#comment-31195 Dylan Bundy had a 7.02 K/9 and 4.32 B/9 in 3 AA starts before being inexplicably called up to the majors to blow out his elbow. He is the poster boy for exactly how NOT to handle a prep pitching prospect. But if you consider that to be dominant, then you should be thrilled with Taillon’s 8.5 and 3.1, and the fact that he’s tied for 4th in the league in Ks, 9th in IP, and is an Eastern League All Star.

I never said Taillon has been pitching great all season, or that he should or shouldn’t be dominating the Eastern League. He has had some dominate performances (twice hitting 10 Ks) mixed in with poor performances like last night. The idea isn’t to dominate the Eastern League, it’s to continue to develop and become more consistent so when he gets to Pittsbugh next summer, he can dominate the National League. You want him to get there and stick, and not get sent down repeatedly like Baily, or overthrow and blow out his elbow like Bundy.

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By: BuccosFanStuckinMD http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/prospect-watch-jameson-taillon-gets-hammered-blake-taylor-makes-his-debut.html#comment-31191 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 01:57:14 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60354#comment-31191 Okay, in your mind he has been pitching great all season – and last night was his first sub-par performance. That isn’t reality, but keep believing that. With his stuff, he should be dominating AA – I don’t care if he is 21 or 25. His performance does not equate to his talent level. In fact, since the first two months of the season, he has actually regressed – if we are willing to be honest about it. Dylan Bundy managed to be pretty dominating in AA and I believe he was even younger.

In the future, I will try to not post anything that might be considered negative about any Pirates prospects.

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By: BostonsCommon http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/prospect-watch-jameson-taillon-gets-hammered-blake-taylor-makes-his-debut.html#comment-31188 Sun, 14 Jul 2013 23:06:19 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60354#comment-31188 Objective? You’re throwing out blanket statements like “he’s been mostly mediocre at best” , and “he needs to start earning that huge contract”. And these ridiculous expectations like he “should be knocking on the door for a call-up to Pittsburgh”. When is the last time a 21 year old stepped on the mound for the Bucs, cuz that’s what you asking for and expect from him.

I’m not his uncle, but your opinions about what he should be doing are just absurd. And he just might turn into Harvey, but you’ve got to give him a chance. Harvey was taken out of college and still needed almost 50 starts and 225+ IP in the minors before he made it. Baily is a better comp as he was also drafted in the top 10 as a prep pitcher, but guess what? He still needed parts of 5 seasons in the minors and 94 starts before he stuck in the Reds rotation.

Taillons performance and where he has developed to are completely fine and in line with what should be expected. I think it’s your expectations that are a little unreasonable at this point. Again, just let him keep pitching and developing and he will be in Pittsburgh next summer. One bad start doesn’t make him a disappointment and won’t keep him from making it to the Bigs.

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By: BuccosFanStuckinMD http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/prospect-watch-jameson-taillon-gets-hammered-blake-taylor-makes-his-debut.html#comment-31187 Sun, 14 Jul 2013 22:45:36 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60354#comment-31187 I would expect he would have a winning record, in spite of being on a mediocre team, I would expect him to have dominate most AA teams – and appear to be heads and shoulders better than the competition he is facing. I would expect him to be easily the team’s best starting pitcher. Last night was his first awful start, but he has been far less than dominant over his past 4-5 starts.

I never said anything remotely close expecting 5 Ks per 9 innings, so quit the condescending crap.

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By: BuccosFanStuckinMD http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/prospect-watch-jameson-taillon-gets-hammered-blake-taylor-makes-his-debut.html#comment-31186 Sun, 14 Jul 2013 22:41:15 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60354#comment-31186 Bostons – Can we stop with the absurd statements – I never said anything about expecting 15 Ks per 9 innings, so drop that crap. You lose all credibility with statements like that. You can disagree with me if you want, but don’t stoop to distorting my concerns with sarcasm.

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By: BuccosFanStuckinMD http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/prospect-watch-jameson-taillon-gets-hammered-blake-taylor-makes-his-debut.html#comment-31184 Sun, 14 Jul 2013 22:02:14 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60354#comment-31184 I’m sorry, I didn’t know making a objective observations about a player is now considered bashing?? Are you his father in law or uncle??

23 Ks in 34 innings in AA – big deal. Take away his name and where he was taken in the draft, he wouldn’t be in the top 50 just based on performance to date. I was hoping he would be our version of Matt Harvey – now I am just hoping he will at least be Homer Bailey.

I love my Pirates, but I am not so blind that I cannot be objective. INMHO, Kingham has already passed him up – and Glasnow is right on his bumper. He needs to start earning that huge contract.

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By: BostonsCommon http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/prospect-watch-jameson-taillon-gets-hammered-blake-taylor-makes-his-debut.html#comment-31183 Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:42:01 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60354#comment-31183 On top of all of that, he’s probably staring a promotion right in the face. He made 23 starts at WV before moving up, and 23 in Bradenton before he was moved. Give him another 2-3 starts to recover and he could be in Indy by the end of the month. And then you can complain when he doesn’t K 15 per IP in his first taste of AAA.

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By: BostonsCommon http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/prospect-watch-jameson-taillon-gets-hammered-blake-taylor-makes-his-debut.html#comment-31182 Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:18:36 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60354#comment-31182 Bromberg has pitched in the Eastern League for parts of 4 seasons with almost 70 starts! I would expect him to be able to handle hitters at that level by now. Taillon has 21 starts at the level, or about 2/3 of a full season. Just let the kid pitch and you will see him in Pittsburgh next Summer.

And to be seen as one of the top 10-15 prospects for 3 straight years is exactly what you want to see from him. He’s holding his value as he moves from level to level. You really need to find someone else to bash on.

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By: BuccosFanStuckinMD http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/07/prospect-watch-jameson-taillon-gets-hammered-blake-taylor-makes-his-debut.html#comment-31181 Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:57:45 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=60354#comment-31181 id be happy if he struck out as many batters as Bromberg does on a consistent basis!

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