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First Pitch: Who Can Be Invited to Spring Training?

First Pitch: Who Can Be Invited to Spring Training?

Earlier today I was asked a question on Twitter about Spring Training. The first part of the question could have been answered easily on Twitter. The second part required more explaining, and would have made a good article. I decided to go with both questions for tonight’s article as a change of pace. For one, article topics are hard to come by this time of year. Also, I’m going tonight with some friends to try a deep fried hot dog covered with four types of cheese, bacon, grilled onions, and sauerkraut. So I wanted something to write in advance, in the event that I die tonight. Here is the question:

To the question, there aren’t really any limits to who can be invited to Spring Training. Everyone on the 40-man roster is invited, plus any non-roster invitees. Usually the non-roster invites go to minor league free agents who were signed over the off-season, and upper level players in the system who aren’t on the 40-man roster. The team can invite lower level players, although that is usually reserved for players who project to make the majors in the next year or two.

To the part about Mathisen and McGuire, those types of players aren’t usually invited to MLB Spring Training. For one, they are nowhere close to the majors. As for the experience of being around Russell Martin, that would be good in theory, but it’s not how things actually work. Martin will be busy preparing for the season. The idea that he can pass knowledge on to young catchers would mean that he’s taking time away from preparing for the season, and spending that time coaching the younger players. There might be some tips he can give Tony Sanchez while they’re in camp together, but when you start adding to the list, it becomes more difficult.

A key difference between Sanchez and a lower level guy like McGuire comes down to the time each will spend in camp. Sanchez projects to spend more time in major league camp. He profiles as the everyday catcher with Indianapolis, but he’ll still get a long look in major league camp, if only because they will need additional catchers in Spring Training. That provides more time for Martin to give Sanchez any relevant tips.

When it comes to McGuire (or any other lower level catcher, but I’ll only use McGuire’s name to keep it simple), their priority would be getting ready for the minor league season. That includes conditioning in minor league camp, getting coaching from the minor league coaches, and playing in the minor league games. That’s far more valuable to McGuire’s development than anything he might pick up from Martin, which really only helps him in the long run.

There would be a few days where McGuire could be in MLB camp, before minor league camp starts. But that’s only a few days, and Martin would be working on getting ready for his season. So overall there would be almost zero impact for inviting McGuire, or any other lower level catcher, to Spring Training. They wouldn’t learn anything in the few days they were in camp due to Martin’s priority of getting ready for the season. If they stayed any longer, they would be missing out on their own priority of getting ready for their own season.

In the long-term, guys like McGuire will eventually get the advice Martin can provide. However, they’ll probably get it from a Triple-A catcher who has been in the majors, or maybe even from Tony Sanchez, who could theoretically pass down Martin’s advice that helped him, along with his own advice that he would have once McGuire is ready.

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  • How was the hot dog? You still alive?

    • If you had Twitter, you would have known hours ago that I was alive, the hot dog was good and I’m drinking smoothies for the rest of the weekend. :)

  • hearing about your hotdog got me thinking.
    reading often about how often minor leaugers end up eating cheap fast foods, shouldn’t teams hire more dietitians? seems like a cheap investment for young prospects we invested millions in.
    seems it would be helpful 4 kids like Herredia with still growing bodies

  • whereswaldo10

    @MikeC I don’t know if you ever listened to the “Baseball Show” with Rany (Jezearly) and Joe (Sheehan), but they talked about the dieting system in the minors. They said 1 WAR is worth about $5-6M. You can check this article from FanGraphs ( for more on that. So, even if you spend an extra $3M, roughly half a win, you could drastically improve the minor league dieting program.

  • dr dng

    Remember, I am new to following all of this, and I hope this question is not too stupid, but do players get any additonal pay for attending spring training or attending as a NRI? Do they get a per diem of meals/housing etc at spring training as a player or NRI? (How about these January optional workouts?
    PS: How was the hotdog?

    • I don’t think they get any additional pay. Usually the pay for players comes during the regular season.

    • Not additional pay, but there is a huge difference between minor league per diem and MLB. I believe the per day amount is just under $100.
      Since they are provided with a place to live and meals (at team facility) it does make a difference for the minor league guys in big league camp.

  • Hmmm, no reply from Tim yet. Either at the Mini Camp or he died from eating those hot dogs. Hope it is the former!

  • SportOMania

    Sounds like the have a version of the “Dirty O” in Florida.

  • Well, looks like we won’t know if Tim made it through the hotdog adventure until morning when we arrive at PP to see his morning story. The suspense is just too maddening!

    • michaelbro8

      If Tim dies, the headline tomorrow: ” Pirates Blogger can’t handle Hot Dogger”

  • Random question … I’ll be in Bradenton for a couple spring training games this year. Rather than drive down to Ft. Myers to see Bucs and Sox, I’m thinking of checking out the action at Pirate City. Any advice?

  • Just because a guy like McGuire is not in ‘big league camp’ does not mean he does not spend time with MLB guys.
    If a guy like Cole is throwing a bullpen, he may come out early in the day, throw to a guy like McGuire in the am the catch his tee time. Martin could pull some pens like that at the same time as McGuire if he is not playing in the spring game that day.
    Then Cole and Russell would be off to a tee time when the minors play (used to be 10:00 am) and then the ML teams play at 1:00.
    McGuire was Tim’s example. Would probably be more like a Paulino type.

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Tim is the owner and editor in chief of Pirates Prospects. He started the site in January 2009, and turned it into his full time job during the 2011 season. Prior to starting Pirates Prospects, Tim worked with, providing MLB, NHL, and NFL coverage to various national media outlets, including ESPN Insider, USA Today, Yahoo Sports, and the Wall Street Journal. He also writes the annual Prospect Guide, which is sold through the site. Tim lives in Bradenton, where he provides live coverage all year of Spring Training, mini camp, instructs, the Bradenton Marauders, and the GCL Pirates.

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