Pirates Prospects » 2012 Draft http://www.piratesprospects.com Your best source for news on the Pittsburgh Pirates and their minor league system. Thu, 13 Nov 2014 05:14:09 +0000 en-US hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 Pirates Sign 21st Round Pick Jordan Steranka http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/09/pirates-sign-21st-round-pick-jordan-steranka.html http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/09/pirates-sign-21st-round-pick-jordan-steranka.html#comments Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:10:03 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=41165 The Pittsburgh Pirates have signed 21st round pick Jordan Steranka out of Penn State. The team agreed to a deal with the third baseman over the summer and prior to the signing deadline, but he failed his physical multiple times due to mono. Because he was a college senior, Steranka was eligible to sign with the Pirates up until a week before the 2013 draft. He’s missed almost the entire season, but should join the club for the Fall Instructional Leagues, and could return to State College next year to give the Spikes a hometown player.

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Pirates Get A First Round Compensation Pick In the 2013 Draft http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pirates-get-a-first-round-compensation-pick-in-the-2013-draft.html http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pirates-get-a-first-round-compensation-pick-in-the-2013-draft.html#comments Wed, 18 Jul 2012 18:53:02 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36748 Major League Baseball held their first Competitive Balance Lottery today, awarding compensation picks to small market and low revenue teams. The Pittsburgh Pirates received the second pick in the first compensation round.

The Pirates had a 10.5% chance of getting the top pick in the draft, and were tied for the fourth most combinations in the lottery, based on their 2011 standings. Their pick currently would be 33rd overall in the 2013 draft. That number will most likely move down with free agent compensation picks, although it won’t move down far, as compensation picks will be harder to get. Right now, with the compensation pick for Mark Appel, plus the regular first round pick, the Pirates have three of the first 33 picks in the draft.

The Competitive Balance picks can be traded, and could factor in to this year’s trade deadline discussion. In the past for the trade values series, we’ve used a value of $2.5 M for each compensation draft pick. That value could go up this year with a tougher road to get compensation picks.

Take Carlos Quentin, as an example. In the past, San Diego might have been able to get a compensation pick or two for him. Now they’d have to offer him $12.5 M, and hope he turned that down. Any team dealing for him would be paying less than previous years because they wouldn’t get a compensation pick to go along with him. In those situations, we could see teams trading the player for the guaranteed compensation pick. That’s just speculation, and might not play out that way in Quentin’s case. One of the story lines over the next two weeks will be following how the compensation picks are valued.

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Pirates Ranked 28th in Draft Spending http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pirates-ranked-28th-in-draft-spending.html http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pirates-ranked-28th-in-draft-spending.html#comments Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:07:11 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36737 Here’s a phrase we haven’t used lately: the Pittsburgh Pirates finished near the bottom in draft spending this year. Baseball America has released the team by team figures, and the Pirates rank 28th, with $3,829,700 spent.

It’s not like they could have spent more. They were $92,600 shy of going over their draft pool and paying a 5% tax. A big reason the number is so low is because first round pick Mark Appel didn’t sign. However, if Appel would have accepted a deal, the Pirates would have only added about $3 M extra to this total, which would have put them 17th on the list.

This is a big change from the past. The Pirates had the highest average spending from 2007-2011, and that included a 2007 draft where the team didn’t spend that much. They spent a record-setting $17 M last year.

They will get a compensation pick for Appel next year, and could get an extra pick in today’s competitive balance lottery, but it would be hard to see them getting close to their previous figures due to the way that this new system restricts spending.

Only four teams this year spent over $10 M in the draft, after ten teams did the same last year. The total draft spending was down about $21 M from last year.

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Details On Tomorrow’s Competitive Balance Lottery http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/details-on-tomorrows-competitive-balance-lottery.html http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/details-on-tomorrows-competitive-balance-lottery.html#comments Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:26:33 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36675 Tomorrow at 1:30 PM EST, MLB will hold their first Competitive Balance Lottery, awarding draft picks to small market and low revenue teams. Jonathan Mayo has the details of the event. Here is a breakdown of what will take place.

**The draft will be held at 1:30 PM, although the results won’t be known until 2:45 PM on MLB Network.

**The teams involved will include the ten smallest-market teams, and the ten lowest-revenue teams. Some teams fall in to both categories, which means there won’t be 20 teams. The teams involved are the Diamondbacks, Orioles, Indians, Royals, Athletics, Pirates, Padres, Rays, Reds, Rockies, Marlins, Brewers and Cardinals.

**The odds of winning a pick will be based on each team’s winning percentage the previous year.

**There will be six picks that will be awarded at the conclusion of the first round. Those picks will take place after the free agent compensation picks.

**Any team that didn’t receive a pick in the first lottery will be entered in a second lottery. The second lottery will award picks at the end of the second round. Along with the seven remaining teams from the first lottery, every remaining team that receives revenue sharing will be included in this second lottery. For this year’s draft, that only applies to the Detroit Tigers, which means eight teams will be competing for six picks after the second round.

**Lottery picks can be traded, although there are a few exclusions. Picks can only be traded once. They can also only be traded in-season. A team that gets a pick can deal it at the trade deadline, or at some point next season before the draft, but they can’t deal picks in the off-season, such as during the winter meetings. Picks also can’t be traded for cash.

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Pirates Draft Signing Recap: Is the System to Blame For Appel Not Signing? http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pirates-draft-signing-recap-is-the-system-to-blame-for-appel-not-signing.html http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pirates-draft-signing-recap-is-the-system-to-blame-for-appel-not-signing.html#comments Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:41:17 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36284

Mark Appel will return to Stanford. – Image Courtesy: Pittsburgh Pirates

The Pittsburgh Pirates are facing a problem that they haven’t faced in the last several years: they were unable to reach a deal with a draft pick that was considered a difficult sign. In years past, all the Pirates had to do was throw money at the draft pick to get a deal done. This year, Major League Baseball reworked the draft to limit spending. The end result was that the Pirates were unable to sign first round pick Mark Appel, as the new Collective Bargaining Agreement rules prevented them from spending over a certain point without imposing harsh penalties and the loss of future draft picks.

Earlier in the week, the Pirates made their final offer to Appel, offering him $3.8 M. That would have put them over their draft pool, bringing a 75% tax on the overage, but falling just short of losing their first round pick in the 2013 draft.

“We were willing to go as far as we were able to under the new system,” Pirates General Manager Neal Huntington said. “Unfortunately it was not something that they had interest in. We knew it was a calculated risk when we drafted Mark. We knew it was going to be a tough sign. We were optimistic that he would want to join an organization on the rise, but at the end of the day we wish Mark nothing but success as he goes back to Stanford.”

There was very little the Pirates could have done. The Appel camp told the Pirates repeatedly that they wouldn’t be able to match the value on Appel. All the Pirates could do was offer the maximum amount, and move on to other players after Appel turned it down.

“When Mark declined our final offer and made us aware that there was no value that we could get to without forfeiting picks to have him sign with the Pirates, we then made the conscious decision to spend the remainder — as much of the remainder as we could — of the $600,000 that we created in the first ten rounds,” Huntington said. “And then we were going to stay under there from then on out.”

The Pirates created just over $600,000 in the top ten rounds, after going under-slot on compensation pick Barrett Barnes (saving $136,400), fifth round pick Adrian Sampson ($2,100), sixth round pick Eric Wood ($88,800), seventh round pick Jake Stallings ($138,000), ninth round pick D.J. Crumlich ($124,100), and tenth round pick Pat Ludwig ($120,000). They used that money to sign Max Moroff, Hayden Hurst, and John Kuchno to over-slot deals.

Moroff received $300,000 in the 16th round. He’s a prep shortstop who had a commitment to UCF. He runs well, and drives the ball well. He was 80-for-80 in stolen base attempts during his high school career and hit for a .408/.594/.750 line with five homers this past season.

Hurst received $400,000 in the 17th round. He touches 95 MPH with his fastball, but mostly sits in the 88-92 MPH range. He needs work on his other pitches. Hurst had a commitment to Florida State, then changed his mind and decided to go to JuCo before eventually deciding to sign.

Kuchno received $125,000 in the 18th round. He’s a college player from Ohio State who can touch 95 MPH with his fastball, and has a good power curve. When both pitches are working, they have the makings of a two plus-pitch mix. Kuchno profiles more as a power reliever, but will probably be used as a starter initially, based on how the Pirates use top arms in the lower levels.

After the tenth round, any amount over $100,000 counts against the bonus pool. The three signings took $525,000 of the available money the Pirates had. The Pirates also signed eighth round pick Kevin Ross for $130,000, which was $8,200 under the bonus pool.

“In Hurst and Moroff we feel like we added a third, a fourth round pick, and another fourth round type pick with the extra money we pulled out of the pool,” Huntington said. “In Kuchno we feel like we got a good college arm that has some growth and development upside. You add next year’s ninth pick in the country and this year’s draft class and we feel like overall we’re going to feel pretty good about it. There’s no question, we’d rather have Mark Appel, but it didn’t work that way.”

The Pirates had discussions with other players in the middle rounds. They were unable to meet the price of 14th round pick Walker Buehler. They negotiated with 35th round pick Jackson McClelland and offered him an over-slot deal on Wednesday night, but fell short of his total. There were also some cases where players changed their bonus demands after the draft.

“Unfortunately we also had some challenges, and while it’s been great to be the Pirates the last four years in the draft, we had some young men change their bonus requests after we drafted them,” Huntington said. “And that’s been a frustrating thing, and I think our history worked against us there as some people have struggled to adapt to the new system.”

With Appel returning to Stanford, the Pirates will receive the ninth overall pick in the 2013 draft. That will be in addition to their original first round pick next year. They will get additional bonus money for the additional pick. With the competitive balance lottery scheduled next week, there’s a chance they could end up with three of the top 45 picks in the draft next year.

“Some have argued that next year’s draft class is going to be better than this year’s draft class,” Huntington said. “We may end up with a player we like just as much as Mark. Again, the opportunity cost is a lost year of development. We might prefer to have Mark Appel. We drafted Mark Appel to sign Mark Appel. We were excited about the opportunity to add him to the plethora of quality young arms.”

It should be noted that under the old system, Appel probably wouldn’t have fallen to the Pirates, so not all blame can go to the system. However, the Pirates could have landed a top talent with the eighth overall pick. Lucas Giolito also fell in the draft, and ended up signing with the Washington Nationals for $2,925,000. The old system would have given the Pirates a chance to spend a little extra and sign some of those later round picks who were about $100,000 apart from what the Pirates could spend. They could have thrown big money at Walker Buehler to get him to sign. They wouldn’t have had to go under-slot for several of their picks in the top ten rounds.

You could make an argument that the old system was better for the Pirates, especially after this result. Huntington didn’t make that argument, but noted that clubs and agents are learning how to operate under the new system.

“The system seems to have worked for many, if not all of those involved,” Huntington said. “It was different. It was a challenge at times. But it is what it is. It’s the system going forward, and clubs are learning how to operate within that more that benefits them the best. The agents are learning how to operate in it that benefits them the best.”

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Pirates Don’t Sign Mark Appel http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pirates-dont-sign-mark-appel.html http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pirates-dont-sign-mark-appel.html#comments Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:20:22 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36251 UPDATE 5:15 PM: Jon Heyman has a statement from Mark Appel:

“After much thought, prayer & analysis of both opportunities, I came to the conclusion the best decision is to remain at Stanford continuing my studies, finishing my degree & doing all I can to assist the Cardinal baseball team in our goal to win nat. championship”

UPDATE 5:13 PM: Neal Huntington issued a statement via press release:

“We were unable to reach an agreement with first round selection Mark Appel and bring him into our already strong organization.

“Our final offer exceeded the available bonus pool money and was essentially up to the last dollar we could offer prior to falling into the second tier penalty which would have resulted in the loss of a first round draft selection. While, as we have shown in past years, we are willing to be aggressive with our financial offer, we simply did not feel it was in the best interest of the organization to forfeit our first round selection in the 2013 amateur draft.

“Selecting Mark was a calculated risk, as we knew he would be a difficult sign. As an organization, we need to continue to take these types of calculated risks. While we would’ve preferred to add Mark to the group of talented prospects in our system, we wish Mark, and his family, nothing but success in the future.

“We were able to add quality talent and depth from this year’s draft. We look forward to having the ninth selection in the 2013 draft as compensation for the non-signing of Mark, in addition to our conventional pick in the first round and beyond, to continue to further strengthen the talent level within our system.”

5:04 PM: According to Jim Callis of Baseball America, the Pittsburgh Pirates did not sign first round pick Mark Appel. No word yet on other picks who may have signed.

The Pirates will get the 9th overall pick in the 2013 draft. They’ll also get extra bonus money for that pick. In order to draft Appel again, they’ll have to get him to sign a waiver.

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Pirates Sign Eighth Round Pick Kevin Ross http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pirates-sign-eighth-round-pick-kevin-ross.html http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/pirates-sign-eighth-round-pick-kevin-ross.html#comments Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:18:13 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36269 The Pittsburgh Pirates signed eighth round pick Kevin Ross for $130 K, per Kendall Rogers. That amount is $8,200 under his slot price. We heard earlier that Ross was expected to sign. For more on Ross, check out his player page.

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Draft Signing Updates: Thomas, Hurst http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/draft-signing-updates-thomas-hurst.html http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/draft-signing-updates-thomas-hurst.html#comments Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:11:32 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36259 Mark Appel didn’t sign. Here’s more news.

**Fourth round pick Brandon Thomas also didn’t sign. He will return to Georgia Tech for his senior year.

**17th round pick Hayden Hurst received a $400,000 bonus.  That left the Pirates with $84,400 for over-slot deals. No word on whether they used that on anyone else.

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Less Than An Hour To Go: Brandon Thomas, Walker Buehler, Slot Prices http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/less-than-an-hour-to-go-brandon-thomas-walker-buehler-slot-prices.html http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/less-than-an-hour-to-go-brandon-thomas-walker-buehler-slot-prices.html#comments Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:22:27 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36246 Less than an hour to go before the MLB draft signing deadline. Here are some quick hits.

**I just heard back from a source with Georgia Tech saying that the Brandon Thomas negotiations are “up in the air”. He hasn’t ruled out signing yet. His slot price in the fourth round is $336,700.

**The Pirates could still offer 14th round pick Walker Buehler $650,740 without losing a draft pick. That figure assumes that Mark Appel and Brandon Thomas don’t sign. If Thomas signs, the amount goes up by about $17,000.

**If the Pirates spent their remaining over-slot money (currently $384,400) and spent their current 5% extra (not counting Appel), they would still have $2.9 M to offer Appel at the deadline, plus the extra 5% on his bonus, which would be a total of $3.045 M.

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Mark Appel Rumors: Moving on From Appel? http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/mark-appel-rumors-deadline-day.html http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/mark-appel-rumors-deadline-day.html#comments Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:05:59 +0000 http://www.piratesprospects.com/?p=36199 UPDATE 4:04 PM: With less than a hour to go, all signs point to the Pirates moving on from Mark Appel. I’ve confirmed through sources that 16th round pick Max Moroff has signed for $300,000. That takes $200,000 away from Appel’s potential bonus. I’ve heard from several camps that players in the middle rounds are waiting to see what happens with Appel.

The Pirates now have $550,740 to spend on over-slot bonuses without losing a pick. That number is if Appel doesn’t sign. If he does sign, they’d get an extra $145 K. Either way, Appel could sign at the deadline. The $2.9 M will be there, along with that extra $145 K if he signs. But it’s looking like that money is disappearing fast.

UPDATE 2:22 PM: Keith Law has been one of the people saying next year’s draft is weak. He repeats that on Twitter, and says Appel has a chance of going top two. Even if that’s the case, it wouldn’t be much of a change from this year. Appel entered the year as the top draft prospect, and was considered a candidate to go first overall right up until the Astros took Carlos Correa. If he fell this year, he could fall next year. He also has less leverage next year as a college senior.

UPDATE 2:16 PM: Jim Callis weighs in with a few thoughts on Twitter. He says that everyone is saying Appel won’t sign, and that he’s leaning that way, although he wouldn’t rule out Appel signing. Of the unsigned first rounders, he gives Kevin Gausman the best chance to sign, Lucas Giolito the second best chance, and Appel third. That’s pretty surprising to see Giolito ahead of Appel. Giolito has a lot more leverage, as he can go to school and re-enter the draft in three years. Also, the most Washington can give him is $3.03 M, while the Pirates can give Appel over $3.8 M.

11:40 AM: Keeping track of all of the Mark Appel rumors with less than six hours remaining for him to sign.

**Jon Heyman writes that Appel is unlikely to sign by the deadline today. He says that the Pirates would have to raise their offer for Appel, and in doing so, they would have to forfeit their 2013 first round pick. He mentioned the Pirates won’t go that route. Heyman also mentioned that the only slim chance of Appel signing is an intervention by MLB, pointing out a flaw in the rules. I would point out that another possibility would be Appel deciding to sign by the deadline. Heyman notes that there’s no feeling that the Pirates have done anything wrong with the negotiations.

**The Pirates signed 18th round pick John Kuchno for $25,000 over-slot. As I mentioned last night, they’ve also been offering over-slot deals to other mid-round picks. That’s significant, as it reduces the available money they have to sign Appel.

More to come throughout the day.

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