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Jameson Taillon Finishes 18th on MLB.com’s Rankings

Taillon rated 18th in MLB.com's top 50 prospects for the 2011 season.

MLB.com released their top 50 prospects for the 2011 season tonight, and Jameson Taillon rated 18th on the list.  Taillon was the only Pirates prospect named to the list.  You can see the full list here, and the write up of Taillon is here.  The Pirates were one of 18 teams to have just one player in the top 50.

The Baseball America top 100 rankings has come out at the end of February during the last two years.  I could see Taillon rated a little higher in that list, although I don’t think any other players in the system crack the top 50.  As for the rest of the top 100, the contenders would be Stetson Allie, Luis Heredia, and Tony Sanchez.

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James Vargo

Harper is going to be great, but someone please tell me why he was in the All-Star game. One shouldn’t get chosen because of potential, since his numbers were OK, but not better than many others. We will be sick of him in future AS games as it is.


I think these situations should be handled case by case. I think it would be silly for an organization to have a firm rule against moving talent quickly through the system.


Last 15 players to get 50 or PAs at their age 19 season or earlier:
Bryce Harper
Justin Upton
Adrian Beltre
Andruw Jones
Edgar Renteria
Pudge Rodriguez
Juan Gonzalez
Gary Sheffield
Jose Oquendo
Ricky Seilheimer
Robin Yount
Claudell Washington
Darrell Porter

To your point, most of these guys were raking when they were called up. Exceptions would be Renteria (.713) and Pudge (.683). Griffey (.845 the season before as he made the Opening Day roster) and JuanGon (.848) weren’t tearing it up.

We have to assume Baltimore knows what it is doing. Other than Seilheimer & Oquendo (and Harper so far), the guys on the list varied from making multiple all-star teams to making the HOF. That’s a pretty good track record for inserting a 19 year old into the Show.


I think the strongest argument against promoting him was made by BlueBomber in an earlier comment. That is, he might not be an improvement over what they currently have.

I understand what you are saying about becoming a young free agent and trying to maximize the limited amount of time of player control. But I believe if Machado is the best option for SS or 3B in the whole organization at age 19 or 20 or 21, then he should be in the Show, even if you risk losing him as a free agent at a young age.

John Lease

Harper’s the real thing. Bonds blew thru the minors too. His first year was a little spotty, but he learned and improved. The Orioles are trying to make the playoffs, that matters.


Tim, are you aware of a study that shows that promoting too soon is damaging? Anectodally we know it happens (see Castillo, Jose) but is it more than random noise? Both Jose Guillen and Aramis Ramirez were rushed and turned out OK.


I think promoting Machado at this point is a mistake. I believe it is better to let a prospect master their level before promotion. Once players get to AA/AAA/MLB talent becomes less of an issue – mastering the mental aspect is the key. The game is a series of adjustments, and taking the time to make the adjustments while keeping mental focus is vital to MLB success. Better to learn this in the minors than trying it against the best baseball players in the world. That’s the part that is difficult to measure and why I would take a conservative approach.


I’m always in favor of promoting a player that shows success at an area of team need, but this one’s a head scratcher. Betemit and Hardy aren’t great, but it’s unlikely that Machado is an improvement over either. Maybe the Orioles are hoping his athleticism is enough to give them a short term boost. Other then that I can’t imagine it’s a good idea to throw him into a AL East pennant race at this point. Does anyone know if they do any type of mental fitness assessments of players? I always wonder if some high scores in mental adustment or some other type indicator may influence decisions like these.

John Franco

If you asked me to guess how many ABs Machado had above High-A, I would have said a lot less than 402. So my initial reaction that he was really being rushed might be off a bit, but honestly, Hardy is at .229./275./385 with a pretty solid glove and I’m skeptical that Machado can improve on that.


Machado will play 3B for the O’s


Tim, I think you have a confirmation bias issue here. Your saying that guys who moved quickly who struggle will have an easy explanation isn’t really valid without much more analysis. There are plenty of guys who spend years in the minors then struggle in the bigs and plenty of players who move quick and don’t struggle. Generally, those who move quickest are the best talents, while the slower path is more common for more marginal players. You’d really have to do a much broader study to make any conclusion or at least focus on consensus top talents.


Truth, he’d be at Bradenton if we had picked him.

Lee Young

Tim mentioned that you never know. Look at Rutledge for Colorado. Look at LaHair for Chicago.

And, don’t forget that guys like Alvarez, Presley and Tabata ALL did well their first years in the bigs.

It’s a ‘who the heck knows’ type of deal. Just like protecting pitchers. They weren’t coddled when I grew up and seemed to do okay. Now……don’t get me started….lol


Tim there is plenty of guys who are in the pro’s now with only a year or two in the minors. A lot of teams the bucs have faced this year has at least one guy who has limited minors experience on there squads the bucs are slow to move up prospects from level to level even when production has been exceptional. I would not doubt that Gerritt Cole would be either in AAA or the majors with a majority of teams right now with the way the bucs handle prospects we might not see him till 2015.


Thats something that Tony Sanchez didn’t make the top 10 catching prospects on Mayo’s lists

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