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Tuesday, November 29, 2022

Pirates Expected To Pursue Clint Barmes

Troy Renck of the Denver Post has an article up looking at a lot of Colorado Rockies off-season notes, but in his footnotes has a mention about the Pittsburgh Pirates.  Renck expects the Pirates to pursue Clint Barmes, who played with Colorado from 2003-2010, with most of those years being under Clint Hurdle.

In my review of the shortstop free agent market, I noted that Barmes was one of the best options available for the Pirates, after the top guys like Jose Reyes and Jimmy Rollins.  The main appeal with Barmes is his defense.  He’s posted some amazing numbers in the past three years at the shortstop position, looking at his UZR/150.  He had a 29.3 UZR/150 in 2009, although he only played 103 innings at the position.  In 2010 he had a 14.9 UZR/150, playing 361 innings at the position.  In 2011 he showed he could keep the performance up over the long haul, with a 10.8 UZR/150 in 1058.1 innings.

Offensively, Barmes doesn’t bring much to the table, although he could be an upgrade over what Ronny Cedeno did in 2011.  Cedeno had a .249 average with a .636 OPS.  Barmes had a .244 average in 2011 with a .698 OPS.  That’s in line with his career .252 average and .703 OPS.

Barmes made $3.925 M in 2011 in what would have been his final year of arbitration.  The Pirates bought out Cedeno’s $3 M option for $200 K last week.  Renck has been a good source in the past on Rockies related rumors, and the connection between Barmes and Hurdle makes a lot of sense.  It will be a situation to watch with the Pirates needing a starting shortstop for the 2012 season.

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. Barmes career #s at PNC in 100 plate appearances…276/.347/.425   ….excited? No not excited……but I *DO* like him FAR more then Cedeno. He doesn’t seem to be the line-up hole that Ronnie frequently seems to become. It would be a small step in the right direction.

Lee Young

Pls forgive me if I don’t get excited about Clint Barmes.


Shortstop isn’t exactly a position with an abundance of talent. Barmes is a fairly good one, I would gladly take him here.

Matthew Dolter

do you guys even watch baseball

barmes clear upgrade over cedeno


I’d keep Tabata, Marte and Grossman, trade McCutcheon for Gonzalez and Suzuki and a young shortstop.  Cutch isn’t interested in being here long-term.  The others will be.


If the Pirates do sign Barmes, they need to make sure he gets his deer jerky delivered to his house so he doesn’t have to carry it himself.

Terry Gray

Don’t like it. I have said here that I hope for trades for younger players with more upside. Lately I have been thinking about if I would trade Tallion for Montero and Nunez. Or if Bos. ends up needing a closer , Hanrahan for Iglacis and Anderson and I don’t know what. With the control over the OF maybe Marte and Grossman are available for the Oakland pitchers. Any ideas about these kind of deals?

Matthew Dolter

i like it

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