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Thursday, December 1, 2022

Prospect Watch: Cole Strikes Out Seven


A look at how the current top 10 prospects did today. Note that this list doesn’t include players currently in the majors. Rankings from the 2012 Prospect Guide, which can be purchased here.

Cole strikes out seven again

1. Gerrit Cole, RHP (0-0,5.25 ) – 5 IP 5 H 3 R 3 ER 1 BB 7 K 1 HR

2. Jameson Taillon, RHP (0-1, 2.63) – Next start 4/25

3. Starling Marte, CF (.264) –  DNP

4. Josh Bell, RF (.269) –  DNP

5. Luis Heredia, RHP (No Stats) – Extended Spring Training

6. Robbie Grossman, CF (.226) -0-for-2, 3 BB 2 R

7. Tony Sanchez, C (.282) – 2-for-5, 2 RBI

8. Stetson Allie, RHP (0-0, 54.00) – 0.1 IP 1 H 2 R 2 ER 4 BB 0 K 0 HR

9. Kyle McPherson, RHP (No Stats) – AAA DL

10. Nick Kingham, RHP (0-0, 12.86) – Next Start: 4/21


Top Pitcher: Zack Dodson, LHP(4.20) 6 IP 3 H 2 R 0 ER 1 BB 8 K 0 HR
Top Hitter: Adalberto Santos, RF (.464) – 4-for-5, 2 2B, 4 RBI

Home Runs:  Drew Maggi (1)



Game Notes: Game was postponed. Will be made up as part of a doubleheader on July 12


Box Score

Result: Altoona 7, Richmond 15

Starting Pitcher: Aaron Pribanic, RHP (7.36) 2.2 IP 9 H 6 R 6 ER 2 BB 0 K 1 HR

Top Hitter:  Adalberto Santos, RF (.464) – 4-for-5, 2 2B, 4 RBI

Other Notable Performers

Quincy Latimore, LF (.178) – 2-for-4, RBI, SB

Tony Sanchez, C (.282) – 2-for-5, 2 RBI

Robbie Grossman, CF (.226) -0-for-2, 3 BB 2 R

Game Notes:  Altoona had a 7-6 lead going into the 8th inning, before Zach Foster and Matt McSwain combined to give up nine runs in the last two innings. Santos has seven hits in the last two games and he has 13 hits in 28 AB’s so far this year. He came into the game with no RBI’s. Brock Holt went 0-for-5, dropped his average down 30 points to .296 in 48 AB’s. Altoona made four errors, including two by Santos. Runners were 4-for-4 in stolen bases off Tony Sanchez.


Box Score

Result: Bradenton 4, Fort Myers 3

Starting Pitcher: Gerrit Cole, RHP (0-0 5.25) 5 IP 5 H 3 R 3 ER 1 BB 7 K 1 HR

Top Hitter: Drew Maggi (.286) 2-4, HR, 2 runs, SB

Other Notable Performers

Alex Dickerson,1B (.259) 1-3, BB

Quinton Miller, RHP (7.04) – 2.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 0 HR

Game Notes:  Cole made his third pro start and recorded six strikeouts in the first two innings. He now has 18 strikeouts in 12 innings and tonight was the second time he recorded seven strikeouts in a game. Josh Poytress followed him with two scoreless innings, picking up the win in his Bradenton debut. In 8.1 innings with WV this year, he allowed just one run and struck out eight. Miller got the save with his first scoreless outing of the year. Maggi’s homer was the only one among the Pirates farm clubs today and it ended up being the game winner.


Box Score

Result: Charleston 4 , West Virginia 3

Starting Pitcher: Zack Dodson, LHP (4.20) 6 IP 3 H 2 R 0 ER 1 BB 8 K 0 HR

Top Hitter: Alen Hanson, SS (.406) – 2-for-4, 3B

Other Notable Performers

Jose Osuna, 1B (.304) – 2-FOR-4, run

Willy Garcia, LF (.196) – 0-for-3, 2 RBI

Gregory Polanco, CF (.296)- 1-3, BB 2 SB

Game Notes:  Stetson Allie made his return from elbow tightness. It was his first game since he started on 4/6, when couldn’t get out of the first inning. He faced six batters tonight and gave up and infield single, four walks and he recorded one out before being pulled. Allie was credited with the loss. Josh Bell did not play. Dodson left with the scored tied and both runs he allowed were unearned. He had seven strikeouts total in his first two games and also allowed two unearned runs in his first start.


AAA: Indianapolis Indians – 6-8

AA: Altoona Curve – 6-8

A+: Bradenton Marauders – 7-7

A: West Virginia Power – 5-10

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John started working at Pirates Prospects in 2009, but his connection to the Pittsburgh Pirates started exactly 100 years earlier when Dots Miller debuted for the 1909 World Series champions. John was born in Kearny, NJ, two blocks from the house where Dots Miller grew up. From that hometown hero connection came a love of Pirates history, as well as the sport of baseball.

When he didn't make it as a lefty pitcher with an 80+ MPH fastball and a slider that needed work, John turned to covering the game, eventually focusing in on the prospects side, where his interest was pushed by the big league team being below .500 for so long. John has covered the minors in some form since the 2002 season, and leads the draft and international coverage on Pirates Prospects. He writes daily on Pittsburgh Baseball History, when he's not covering the entire system daily throughout the entire year on Pirates Prospects.


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Andrew Smalley

Tim – You have anything to say to those that don’t think (w/ overwhelming evidence on their side) that Allie is indeed improving?  You seem to be the only one who is saying he has gotten better, yet the results are all w/ the guys saying he isn’t.

K-Law was in attendance and said he was horrendous and that he isn’t where the Pirates would want him to be 2 years after signing him. I think I agree.  Despite your videos and reports saying otherwise, at some point, he needs to show better results.  He isn’t….


Not speaking for Tim’s opinion, at all, but…
Of all of us, I was always the most down on Allie (I think I had him 15th or so in the personal rankings).
A guy can have all the “stuff” in the world, but if he doesn’t want to do something, you can’t force him.
I simply don’t think he wants to be a starter…he wants to be a reliever, he has the short-term bulldog mentality, and can let it all hang out.  He may be thinking about too many things when he’s a starter.

Every asset for the Pirates should be maximized and I understand why they want him to start, but if you ruin him mentally and physically as a starter then you ruin the asset.
Make him a reliever and turn him loose.

There is a mental aspect to this game, too.


seems like the pirates player develoment is turning a horse into a colt, he threw 120 pitches and went nine inning a lot in college, the piretes have him down to 70 plus pitches a start. he’s not a high school pitch let him pitch longer.

Ian Rothermund

 It’s early on in the season also.  I bet Cole wasn’t throwing 120 pitches this early in the UCLA season.  Also, this isn’t about putting up great numbers and trying to win a game, it’s about getting in the proper shape.  I bet he’ll peak with a pitch count around 100+ later on in the season though.

Lee Young

 Yep…not worried one iota about his pitch count. It’s that nagging ‘I gotta overpower this ptich” tendency that bothers me.

But, as mentioned above, that IS what the minors is about. We can only hope.


They are getting him acclimated to the five man rotation as opposed to throwing once a week in college. His innings limit will be well above what a normal HS pitcher would do during his first full season. Taillon threw 92.2 innings last year, Cole will easily surpass that, likely in the 140-150 range

Vince Riedy

The strike outs are nice but Cole is giving up runs at an alarming rate. I know it is a small sample size but if you combine this with his bad ERA in his last year in college I am beginning to be alarmed.


Cole had a 3.31 ERA last year.  That’s not dominant for college, but not terrible, either.  His career ERA was 3.38.

Cole has all the pitches you want to see in an ace.  His fastball and slider are both plus, his change is at least a 50 average pitch as well.

It is simply refining his mechanics, which is what the minors are for, and he will be fine. 


I’m a bit dubious about your last statement.  With two plus pitches, and a third that’s average, I think he ought to dominate High-A batters.  Refinement will help, but tools like his should play better at the level.  I’m not “concerned” because he does have talent. But I’d have taken Bauer or Bundy so in that sense I was already not bullish on him.  I just don’t see how you can be so cavalier about his current performance (which is not horrible but…)

Tim Williams

The big issue with Cole is that he tends to overpower his pitches. That causes his fastball to elevate and his slider to flatten out. This leads to the home runs and the extra base hits.

Lee Young

 And THAT’S a big issue. Will he ever unlearn that? We can only hope.


 18K and 4BB in 12IP, I’m terrified?!?

He has been unlucky to allow 3HR already which is pumping his ERA higher, calm down.


every single pitcher will give up homers, so thats totally irrelevant hahaha. i agree with Tim that minors are more refining and working on things, not for dominance and blowing away guys on a nightly basis. because if a guy does that, how do you know that dominance translates to the big leagues? because it doesnt….with the talent being so much higher in the big legaues than the minors.

Lee Young

 Kevin….thx, but I know all that. And I hope he refines them. However, that is the biggest question about him. WILL he refine them?

And you and I know that it is not SIMPLE to refine mechanics. Just ask JMac (among others).

Heck, I can’t even pound a nail into a wall the same way twice in a row….lol

Ian Rothermund

But we’re not talking about poor body control and unrepeatable pitching mechanics, we’re talking about over-powering…..trying too hard.  There are different reasons for different mechanical inadequacies.  Granted, this may be a problem that Cole will deal with for his entire career, but it’s just a matter of him doing the correct thing more often than the wrong thing.  The key will be if he can learn how and when he should juice it up; when he runs it in on people, or works it up for a ball. 

I’d still rather teach Cole how to pitch, than teach Bauer how to have better stuff.   Idk about Bundy though, man he looks good, lol.

Lee Young

 never wanted Bauer, but Bob Dylan Al Bundy looked real good to me.

Lee Young

 I wanted Rendon, and then Bundy, but we fell in love with the power arm. I am wondering if he is gonna be the perennial tease. It’s early, but…..

Pribanic needs some prayer….

Santos made 2 errors? I’m wondering about his fielding ability….

Allie looks terrible. It’s VERY early, but I wonder if he should try hitting. I hear he hits bombs in BP. Oh wait….maybe that’s Pedro….lol

white angus

scott rolen once made 38 errors in a minor league season.  does anyone remember rolen’s defense being questioned after he made the majors?

Lee Young

 Mr angus….then your saying Santos is a top fielder? That was my intent.

Lee Young

 that should be “you’re” not ‘your’….there goes that teaching degree of mine….yuck

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