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Tuesday, December 6, 2022

Six Pirates File For Arbitration

The MLB Players Association announced today that 146 players have filed for arbitration. That list includes all six Pirates who were eligible: Pedro Alvarez, Vin Mazzaro, Mark Melancon, Gaby Sanchez, Travis Snider, and Neil Walker. The process to file for arbitration is only a formality, and isn’t really significant. The significant move this week will be when the teams and players exchange figures on Friday.

Once the two sides exchange figures, a deal usually follows. The sides tend to meet somewhere in the middle. If they don’t meet in the middle, the two sides go to an arbitration hearing. In that hearing they each argue for their salary figure, and an arbiter decides which salary represents the player’s value. The Pirates have gone to arbitration with players in the past, although it is rare. The last player they took to arbitration was Garrett Jones in 2012, and they won the case. Teams try to avoid arbitration, since it avoids a situation where you’re arguing that the value of a player isn’t as high as the player thinks it is. The eligible players are projected to make the following salaries, according to MLBTR:

Neil Walker – $4.8 M

Pedro Alvarez – $4 M

Mark Melancon – $3 M

Gaby Sanchez – $2.3 M

Travis Snider – $1.4 M

Vin Mazzaro – $800 K

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calhammer

Let me get this straight there is only (5) players in the MLB who strikeout more than Alvarez (180) times once every (3) at bats & U want to give him a MILLION more than he’s asking?????

bobes6

I think Mazzaro will get about 1.2 and Alvarez will get closer to 5 than 4.

PiratesForever

I wouldn’t raise walkers money because I think he has preformed at his salary not below or above I would raise Pedro’s and Melancon’s maybe Mazzaro’s but I wouldn’t raise Snider’s or Sanchez’s because I believe they have under preformed.

emjayinTN

I Like Walker a lot and wish the Pirates would sign him to a long term contract, but he made $3.3 mil in 2013 and I see a $4.5 mil salary for 2014 as a 36 % increase, and very fair. I would pay Pedro the same amount. Mark Melancon possibly $2.5 mil and Sanchez the same at $2.5 mil.

baseballflash5

I like Walker too, but a 36% raise is not fair at all. He didn’t improve last year from 2012, and if anything, took a slight step back. Most people get a 1%-5% raise every year at their jobs, and that is based on performance.

emjayinTN

The Arbitration Process is very confusing, but the only time it will reflect actual and singular stats is when a kid is injured. Once his representative gets done comparing him to other MLB 2B and their salaries, and the better stats Walker had in 2013 for W/K, HR’s, and Defense, we will have to submit a number that an Arbitrator may consider reasonable. Walker’s camp may submit $5 mil + and we better be somewhere above $4.1 mil. Then we will split the middle and he will be getting $4.5 to $4.8 mil.

I think Tim mentioned somewhere that Arbitrators typically do a 20%, 40%, 60%, 80% of value. So just consider that 20% is an absolute minimum – $4.125 mil is a 25% increase and is where I would start if I were the Pirates. The player always has to go first – if he opts to go too big, say $5.3 mil, the Pirates could offer a $4.5 mil number that the Arbitrator would probably choose rather than the $5.3 mil number. These guys are pretty sharp about the system, and this is a team that hit the mother lode last year.

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