Contract Details For Radhames Liz and Updated 2015 Payroll Numbers

The Pittsburgh Pirates announced their deal with right-handed pitcher Radhames Liz on Friday. Today the details were reported by Rob Biertempfel. The original deal was said to be for two years and $3 M. After some issues with his physical, the two sides reworked the deal and now Liz is signed for $1M over one year. As noted yesterday, Liz only has 0.133 days of service time, so he still has six full years before he hits free agency if the Pirates choose to hold on to him.

The 2015 payroll page is updated with Liz’s contract. We listed the contract of Francisco Liriano as $13 M for 2015, but the actual details of the deal have yet to be released. That number is based on the assumption that Liriano is getting paid $13 M each year of his three-year deal. If that number is correct for him, then the estimated payroll for 2015 is now just north of $89 M.

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Wonder what the physical issue with Liz was? Makes the signing even more foolish, IMO.

Lukas Sutton

Im not sure anyone can call any signing that costs a whopping 1 million “foolish”. He would have to stay healthy and suck all year while the team for no reason keeps him on the roster to come close to “foolish” at his price.


About 80% of healthy major league pitchers will have positive findings on MRIs, and this could be considered a finding during a physical.


So Bucs agree to 2/3m with Liz, something shows in physical, Bucs say we’ll give you 1/1m or term deal telling rest of league you are damaged goods and Liz gets minor deal for stuggotts? Harsh but more $$$ than he’s made in career so no tears for Liz here. I presume MLB rules preclude him getting more than 15% pay cut in subsequent years so he is still getting good money for 30 year old out of Korean league. Reminiscent of Lirianos situation which turned out ok for all.


I’m waiting for Jeffrey Loria to announce what the Bucs real intentions were on this contract.


NSA: Remember Ryan Vogelsong? SP for the Bucs for about 5 years and could not get his ERA below 5 or 6. Goes to Japan for 2 or 3 years and gets picked up for peanuts by the Giants and he goes something like 27-16 with about a 3.00 ERA the first two years back in MLB – sometimes it happens for some guys later than others.

We are upwards of $89 mil? Where were we going in the discussions with McCarthy? Rumors were that the Bucs were in it right until the end. I think last year they were $76 to start and then upped that to $82 during the season. Were we thinking of starting around $100+ mil and possibly expanding that to $110 during the season?

Lukas Sutton

Rumors said we were a finalist, which can be interpreted very differently than “in it until the end”. The moment we signed Liriano, we could have been 1 of 3 final teams and backed out, keeping us as a “finalist” yet nowhere near closer to getting him.


Cecil Fielder was a lost cause when he left for Japan. Spent a year getting his bat together and came back to be a King of the long ball, before leaving a Prince as his legacy.


They were reportedly only going to sign either Liriano or McCarthy not both.


59: That makes sense, and now that we are hearing that Charlie Morton thinks he will be ready by opening day, the Pirates may only have a few mil left to play with between here and April. Starting with a Rotation of Cole, Liriano, Burnett, and Morton, and a much better BP than 2014, the Pirates should have the horses able to give us a good start out of the gate.

That leaves Worley and Locke as guys who have 50+ MLB Starts, very good success, and both are under team control for the next 4 years. And then we have Brandon Cumpton with about 10+ MLB Starts, Nick Kingham, Jameson Taillon (possible rehab all of 2015), Pimental, and Liz. And, I think I forgot Kyle McPherson who should be just about finished with his TJ Rehab.

Joe Sweetnich

McCarthy signed with the Dodgers

Joe Sweetnich

Sorry – didn’t read your post correctly


Bucco_Joe nowhere to be found.


John, Do we know what the issues are with the physical ?


Good Point…

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