P2 Top 30

A look at how the current top 30 prospects did today.  Note that this list doesn’t include players currently in the majors. If a player is in the majors, he will be removed, everyone below him will be shifted up a spot, and a new player will be added to the bottom of the list. If a player is out for the season, he will be removed and everyone below him will move up a spot. Removing these guys doesn’t mean they have lost prospect status. It is just an attempt to get 30 active prospects on the list. Rankings are from the 2016 prospect guide, and links on each name go to their Pirates Prospects player pages.

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5. Alen Hanson, 2B, Indianapolis – [insert_php] display_top30(593700,’B’,’20160518′);
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6. Harold Ramirez, OF, Altoona -[insert_php] display_top30(623912,’B’,’20160518′);
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7. Reese McGuire, C, Altoona -[insert_php] display_top30(624512,’B’,’20160518′);
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8. Elias Diaz, C, Pirates – Disabled List.

9. Nick Kingham, RHP, Indianapolis – Disabled List

10. Ke’Bryan Hayes, 3B, West Virginia -[insert_php] display_top30(663647,’B’,’20160518′);
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11. Kevin Newman, SS, Bradenton -[insert_php] display_top30(621028,’B’,’20160518′);
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 14. Stephen Tarpley, LHP, Bradenton – [insert_php] display_top30(605501,’P’,’20160518′);
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15.Cole Tucker, SS, West Virginia – [insert_php] display_top30(657061,’B’,’20160518′);
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18. Mitch Keller, RHP, West Virginia -[insert_php] display_top30(656605,’P’,’20160518′);
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19. Clay Holmes, RHP, Altoona – [insert_php] display_top30(605280,’P’,’20160518′);
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20. Willy Garcia, OF, Indianapolis -[insert_php] display_top30(591994,’B’,’20160518′);
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21. Brandon Waddell, LHP, Altoona – [insert_php] display_top30(663399,’P’,’20160518′);
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23. Barrett Barnes, OF, Altoona -[insert_php] display_top30(608627,’B’,’20160518′);
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24. Trevor Williams, RHP, Indianapolis – Disabled List

25. Gage Hinsz, RHP  – Extended Spring Training

26. Adrian Valerio, SS – Extended Spring Training

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29. Jordan Luplow, OF/3B, Bradenton – [insert_php] display_top30(656669,’B’,’20160518′);
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30. JT Brubaker, RHP, West Virginia -[insert_php] display_top30(664141,’P’,’20160518′);
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P2 Top Performers

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Prospect-Watch-Indy

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INDIANAPOLIS – Frank Duncan wishes he could have just two pitches back from his second start at the Triple-A level.

The Indianapolis right-hander was satisfied with how the movement of his changeup against Columbus on Wednesday afternoon, but wanted better placement on two of them specifically.

Duncan allowed three runs and seven hits over 5.1 innings, with a bulk of that occurring in the first and sixth inning. He remembers the changeup that led to an RBI double from Jesus Aguilar in the first inning.

Then there was the leadoff double by Columbus’ Erik Gonzalez in the sixth inning. Both of the doubles were from right-handed batters. Those two Columbus hits ignited enough offense in a 5-3 win over the Indians.

“I’m getting more comfortable throwing changeups to righties,” Duncan said. “But I left too much of it over the plate. [Aguilar] didn’t hit it hard but just in the right place. [Against Gonzalez] it was a 1-0 changeup in the same spot. Those were a couple of pitches I’d like to have back. You just have to learn from those pitches.”

Between the first and sixth innings, Duncan cruised. He struck out seven and walked none. Over his first two starts with the Indians, Duncan has struck out 12 batters and walked nobody in 11.1 innings.

“I never felt like things were getting out of control,” Duncan said. “They just beat me on pitches that I didn’t execute.”

Duncan’s inning-by-inning pitch count drastically decreased after throwing 20 pitches in the first inning. He retired the lineup in order in each of the next three innings, doing so with 12 pitches in the second inning, eight in the third, and six in the fourth inning.

“He’s given us two good starts,” Indianapolis manager Dean Treanor said. “He’s giving you a little bit of a different look. His breaking ball has played.”

Duncan was promoted to Indianapolis after Steven Brault suffered a hamstring injury two weeks ago. Duncan will likely get another start in Indianapolis, Treanor said. Where he will remain long-term is not clear.

“Can he start for us? Yeah,” Treanor said. “Will it be that way moving forward? I don’t know.”

Max Moroff had an RBI single to left field in the third inning, a play helped by the Columbus third baseman going to third to cover runners in motion. Moroff did a good job of working the count full, and fouling off several two-strike pitches until he found the pitch he wanted. Willy Garcia had an RBI single to tie the game at 2-2 later in the inning.

Columbus took a 3-2 lead in the sixth inning, but it came on a ground out against a drawn-in infield. But that ended Duncan’s game after throwing 74 pitches, 53 for a strike.

Indianapolis reliever Guido Knudson had another rough outing, allowing two runs on three hits in one inning of work. Columbus’ Bryson Miles led the seventh inning off by crushing a home run to left field, that nearly hit the sidewalk behind the outfield lawn. Medina followed that up with a double into left field. After a sacrifice bunt, Rodriguez hit a hard shot past a drawn-in infield to score a run.

Knudson began the season by not allowing a run in his first seven outings, which totaled 12 innings of work. He’s allowed at least one run in six of his last eight outings. – Brian Peloza

Prospect-Watch-Altoona-Curve

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Altoona won 6-1 on Wednesday, as Cody Dickson allowed one run over four innings, and Edgar Santana followed him with three shutout innings for the victory.

Dickson pitched well in his last two outings, giving up two runs over 10.2 innings. He only allowed one run on two singles and two walks in this contest, but his pitch count reached 84 by the end of his abbreviated outing. The low walk total is somewhat surprising because he has had control issues this year and only 45 of his pitches went for strikes in this game. There were obviously a lot of deep counts, as he faced just 16 batters, averaging more than five pitches per plate appearance. Dickson picked up two strikeouts and had a 2:6 GO/AO ratio. So despite limiting both runners and runs, this clearly wasn’t a strong performance.

Santana bounced back from his worst appearance of the season when he gave up two runs over two innings on Saturday. Like Dickson, he didn’t have the best control Wednesday night, walking two batters and throwing 19 of his 42 pitches for balls. Santana still managed to keep Binghamton out of the hit column and off the scoreboard.

On offense, Santana actually got the big hit in his first pro at-bat. He hit a two-run single in sixth inning. Edwin Espinal also drove in two runs and Chris Diaz had the other RBI. Erich Weiss had a nice day with a double, triple, walk, and two runs scored. Barrett Barnes had two walks and a run scored. Harold Ramirez collected his seventh double of the season. He has an eight-game hit streak.

Prospect-Watch-Bradenton

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Bradenton lost game one of their doubleheader by a 3-2 score, with Yeudy Garcia giving up all three runs in the second inning. This game was delayed during the sixth inning for over two hours before they finished off the seven inning contest.

Garcia had that one bad inning early, yet managed to go five innings. He was at 77 pitches (52 strikes), so he may have been able to work into the sixth without the delay. He pitch count is around 85 pitches at this point. He gave up eight hits, three of which never left the infield. Garcia also walked two batters and had three strikeouts. He was coming off three games in which he gave up two runs over 14 total innings, so this was a little setback for him.

Luis Heredia finished off the game for Bradenton with a shutout inning, picking up two strikeouts and a ground out. He also walked one batter. Heredia has allowed one earned run in 18.2 innings this season. He has an 0.80 WHIP, a 3.09 GO/AO ratio and a .164 BAA.

The Marauders got solo runs in the first and fourth. Kevin Newman led off the game by reaching on a fielding error that allowed him to reach third base. Kevin Kramer followed him with a single for the first run. In the fourth, Kramer singled, moved to third base on a Pablo Reyes single, then scored on a Jerrick Suiter ground out.

Bradenton had five hits in the game, all singles. Kramer went 2-for-3, while Reyes, Newman and Michael Suchy each picked up one hit. Connor Joe and Jeff Roy each drew walks for the only other base runners.

Game Two Recap  – Bradenton won game two behind some nice pitching from Austin Coley, and a lot more offense than they provided in the first game.

The Marauders only had one extra-base hit on the entire day, with Jeff Roy collecting a double in this game. They did however reach base a lot in game two, with 14 hits, five walks and three hit batters. Roy led the way with four hits. He scored three runs and picked up an RBI. Kevin Kramer added another two hits in this game, plus a walk, a run scored and an RBI. Pablo Reyes had three hits, a walk, and two runs scored. Jordan Luplow played for the first time in four days and had two hits. He left the game early on the 14th and didn’t play again until tonight. Jerrick Suiter had a hit, two walks, and drove in two runs.

Coley went the distance in the 8-0 win, throwing just 72 pitches. He allowed three singles and three walks, striking out two batters. Coley had a nice 7:2 GO/AO ratio in this game. After pitching poorly in his first two games, he has pitched well enough to win each of his six starts since then. Coley has allowed one run or less in five of his starts.

Prospect-Watch-WV-Power

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West Virginia lost 10-1 on Wednesday morning. They began the scoring in the first inning, with Cole Tucker leading off the game with a triple. He was brought home one batter later by Mitchell Tolman, who grounded out to second base. Two batters into the game, the Power had a 1-0 lead and from then on, it was all Delmarva.

Tucker had a good game, adding a single and a walk to go with the triple. It was his first multi-hit game of the season. Casey Hughston hit his second triple of the season. He is batting .143 this year in 33 games, with 49 strikeouts. Alfredo Reyes added two hits.

John Bormann has a season-long 11-game on base streak, which is impressive for a back-up catcher playing twice a week. The Power had their “Sunday lineup” for this game, giving the day off to Tito Polo, Ke’Bryan Hayes, Danny Arribas and Christian Kelley. Tyler Filliben committed three errors in place of Hayes.

Starter Bret Helton has struggled all season and started off poorly in this game, giving up two walks and a single to load the bases. He got out of the inning on a double play, but it took 20 pitches, with just ten for strikes. That was a sign of things to come. He gave up two runs in a 33-pitch second inning. Despite that pitch count (anything over 30 in an inning usually ends a game), he came out for the third, which was another tough/long inning. Helton allowed one run and needed 22 pitches, putting him at 75 in a short time. He gave up a double in the fourth, but it was a quick inning by his standards. In four innings, he allowed three runs on six hits, with three walks and two strikeouts. Helton threw 87 pitches, 54 for strikes. He had a 5:3 GO/AO ratio.

Reliever Tanner Anderson allowed three runs in the fifth, his only inning. Eric Karch followed and looked good for two innings before allowing four runs in the eighth.

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30 COMMENTS

  1. Thank you guys. I wonder if we have ever had a prospect with more folks on both sides of the issue. Dilson Herrera is having a strong year in the PCL while Hanson is having a less than average year at the plate in the IL. The difference between the two leagues is like night and day – very little basis for comparisons.

    I think Herrera will be the heir apparent at 2B for the Mets, just as I think Hanson is the 2B of the future for the Pirates. I would not bet the house on either of those things happening, but it sure looks that way for both.

    • Not arguing your point about PCL vs IL, but do you know if wRC+ is adjusted per league in the minors as it is in the Majors? I always assumed so, but not sure I’ve ever seen stated explicitly.

  2. LEEFOO and John please kiss and make up. We are fans and have opinions whether good or bad about prospects and mlb players. We tend to react based on what we currently see and might not be right about the player but that is the fun of it. Fans as well as the players we critique are not perfect.

  3. I’m currently working on a project, that puts me in Binghamton, NY 3 days/week. I am attending the Curve game here in Binghamton this evening – looking forward to seeing Ramirez, Meadows, McGuire…..weather looks to be decent, although not overly warm – low 60s….

    • Have fun with the constant sound effects between pitches when Binghamton is on offense. I swear whoever is in charge of that is getting paid per sound effect. It borders on pushy how often they tell their fans to cheer

  4. They are grooming Hanson to be the supersub but Frazier may already be pushing ahead of him. Kid is clearly an on-base beast. Lots of caught stealing though, is that a product of running a lot or running poorly?

    • A lot of pick-offs where he left early. The main problem with Frazier compared to Hanson is that he isn’t strong defensively anywhere. He can play SS, but wouldn’t be a regular. He’s well behind Hanson at second base and behind Moroff too, and he has zero arm in the outfield. The other day some guy just rounded second base right in front of him and Frazier started to throw from shallow CF then stopped realizing that there was no chance to get him. Anyone else and that runner either stops at 2B or is out by a good 30 feet.

      The other problems are he doesn’t have any pop in his bat and he isn’t good at stolen bases, despite slightly above average speed. His extra bases are all hustle. He’s a strong on base guy, makes a lot of contact, there just isn’t a whole lot to offer besides that. He should have a bench role somewhere and his infield defense will be helped out by shifts, but I wouldn’t want him in the outfield much. Once teams have the scouting report, they will take liberties on his arm. I wouldn’t mind having him as the 25th man, just needs to get a lot better at reading pitchers so he can use his speed better. That’s what the minors are for though

      • Wow! It sounds like Adam can’t do anything but get on base. 🙂

        So which is better…the on base tool of Adam or the speed/defense of Hanson?

        Sounds like they’re both limited.

        • He can play second base, he’s just far from the best there for Indy. He can fill in occasionally at shortstop, just not a regular, that gives him some versatility. He will probably get good enough to catch everything in the outfield, once he learns to read better off the bat and get better jumps. He has speed, he hustles, he just doesn’t read pitchers well. Someone who gets one base, has speed and can play multiple positions can be valuable. He’s not at that point yet, which is why he’s in the minors.

          You can’t really compare different tools though. Would you rather have someone who can steal bases, drive the ball better and play plus defense at second base, or someone who gets on base and everything else is average or below? That’s up to you, or what a team wants. Hanson is also a year younger, so there is more room for growth compared to a major college player

  5. I see Hanson didn’t get a start for the Bucs so far and with Marte (I think) coming back tomorrow, it appears that I may have finally gotten one right when I said that all they’re going to use him for is a PH/PR.

    Blind squirrels and all that?

    • It must have killed you on the inside to see him get a hit, force that pick-off throw, then use his speed to get to third before scoring a run. Has to be eating away at you right now. My first thought after that happened was, I hope Lee doesn’t have a dog

      150+ players in the system right now won’t have the MLB career he already has for himself…that poor, possibly non-existent dog

      • Not really….see my blind squirrel comment. 🙂
        I thought his strikeout was more his “ability” coming thru.

        Hey…I REALLY hope he makes it big. I just don’t have my hopes up like seemingly most people here.

        • Judging one at-bat, yet dismissing another, which was followed by a positive sequence of events? I think that’s turning a blind eye, not a blind squirrel scenario. Has to kill you…we all know it does, just admit it.

          • You can’t really judge him on anything he’s done the last two nights.

            I just find it hard to believe that a guy with his K/BB ratio and low .700 OPS can be anything more than a utility guy in the majors. I don’t care HOW young he is.

            And get off of my lawn….NOW!

            • Don’t worry Lee. I have a few friends that are big Mets fans and they say Dilson Herrera is tearing the cover off the ball in AAA and will be Walker’s replacement next year. You can get in some “I told you so’s” in 2017 with regards to the Hanson/Herrera comparison!!

              • I am happy Byrd got us to the Wild Card, but why did it have to be Dilson we traded away.

                But, at the time, Hanson was the higher rated player.

                Alen IS a better 2bman from what I have read…..and is faster. 🙂

            • I saw your strikeout comment and then nothing on the hit. Please be 100% honest…if you were still awake that late, how mad were you that he got the hit, went to third on a pick-off, then scored a run. I want 100% honest, scale of 1 to 10, how mad?

              • I NEVER root against a Pirate. I couldn’t stand David Freese….until he became a Bucco. So I was not mad in the least when Hanson got that hit and I have a hard time understanding why you think I would get mad.

                And like I said, I don’t mind being wrong if it brings success to the Bucs. And I hope Hanson proves me wrong….very wrong. I just don’t see it at this point in time.

                • Yeah but you really go at him hard, like he reminds you of someone who picked on you in school. A lot harder than you should be on a 23 year old still learning baseball. I guess I’ll take you word for it, but I can’t imagine you were happy

                  • Btw, it wasn’t like Hanson LACED that ball into LF or anything. It was a bat handle squibber. No reason to trumpet it.

                    As for going “at him hard” are you also keeping track of all the guys that I like? Just curious.

                    Or, are you taking it just a little too personally, maybe?

                    If you take your Top 10 prospects, I liked 8 of them. Only Hanson and McGuire get my “thumbs down”. I don’t think either of them will hit in the majors. But, I hope they do!

                    And just so I make this clear, I hope all 10 succeed. Why? Because I am a Pirate fan.

                    But, I reserve the right to criticize (and ballyhoo) any and all prospects. But, please don’t make it or take it personal. It is nothing more than an opinion. It really kind of scares me to think that you think I hate a Pirate player. I really don’t have that great of a desire to be proven right.

                    • Not keeping track, I just read approx 90% of the comments and notice there has been a lot of Hanson hate and I did notice McGuire too, but nowhere near as much from my perspective. It’s hard not to notice when it’s constant. When people start giving players nicknames based on perceived weaknesses, then it really stands out.

                    • What nickname did I give Hanson? I honestly don’t remember. Also, am I the only one with the Hanson/McGuire “hate”. (although I wouldn’t use that word myself….I would use the word “doubt”)?

                      But, I will make you a deal, mainly because I don’t want to cause any friction between us….no more negative comments about Hanson or McGuire. I will keep them to myself.

                      And, if I do, call me on it. I’m old…I WILL fooget.

                    • There is no friction, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Rankings are all opinion based, and people see different things. Many people have to rely on stats because they don’t put in the time we do watching them and talking to scouts. Some people want to see results before they like players, even if it means ignoring their age/level/tools. Results are great most of the time, but they also need to be put in perspective.

                      We can go off your first comment about Josh Bell having a horrible May. Do you kill him for this month, while taking into account his defensive faults and say he will never be an all-star type player? Or do you say it’s a bad three weeks and his defense continues to improve?

                      What about Meadows and the fact he hasn’t hit this year. Does that make someone worry, or does track record and youth/tools, give him a very long leash? Eye issue aside of course.

                      Even Glasnow seemingly getting worse as he goes along stuff-wise, yet there are the stats (walks aside) to back up his ranking. Do you worry he will just never have the command and third pitch to be a top starter in the majors, or do you say he’s 22 and look at the stats despite the flaws.

                      It’s more than just looking at stats and saying he’s good, he’s not, they’re good, he’s not, etc

                      With McGuire, no one makes contact better than he does, no one has better defense and he’s 21 in AA. He would still be a very good age for Low-A and probably leading the team in hitting if he was there, but would that make him a better prospect? You have to take into account that not only do catchers develop slower at the bat, he’s getting pushed quickly through the system every year. He’s now 3.5 years younger than the average Eastern League player. That’s a big difference for any position, but being a catcher should make it more significant.

                    • The other part is valuing prospects. If you think Kevin Newman will be an all-star shortstop, then he should be ranked high. If you see him as possible 2B who should be a solid player who gets on base and steals, then the ranking should reflect that, because those are big differences. People value positions differently.

                      In my case, if someone has a reliever ceiling, automatically eliminating them for starting, then chances are I’m not going to give them respect. Because a failed starter can still relieve, but a failed reliever finds new work.

                      Proximity to the majors should also be taken into account. I love Ke’Bryan Hayes as a player, but I wouldn’t push him to the top of the list because of that. He has this season and three levels to follow before he even reaches the majors, giving him five levels to master. There is a great chance he won’t match the MLB career (meaning what has already happened) of Hanson or even Elias Diaz just because that’s how prospects work.

                    • It’s more of a grandfather-grandson relationship. On my birthday, he sent me $5 and called me Joe

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