P2 Top 30

A look at how the current top 30 prospects did today.  Note that this list doesn’t include players currently in the majors. If a player is in the majors, he will be removed, everyone below him will be shifted up a spot, and a new player will be added to the bottom of the list. If a player is out for the season, he will be removed and everyone below him will move up a spot. Removing these guys doesn’t mean they have lost prospect status. It is just an attempt to get 30 active prospects on the list. Rankings are from the 2016 prospect guide, and links on each name go to their Pirates Prospects player pages.

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1. Tyler Glasnow, RHP, Indianapolis -[insert_php] include_once (‘./p2-stats/stats_functions.php’);
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2. Austin Meadows, CF, Altoona – [insert_php] display_top30(640457,’B’,’20160601′);
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3. Josh Bell, 1B, Indianapolis – [insert_php] display_top30(605137,’B’,’20160601′);
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4. Jameson Taillon, RHP, Indianapolis – [insert_php] display_top30(592791,’P’,’20160601′);
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5. Alen Hanson, 2B, Indianapolis – [insert_php] display_top30(593700,’B’,’20160601′);
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6. Harold Ramirez, OF, Altoona -[insert_php] display_top30(623912,’B’,’20160601′);
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7. Reese McGuire, C, Altoona -[insert_php] display_top30(624512,’B’,’20160601′);
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8. Elias Diaz, C, Pirates – Disabled List.

9. Nick Kingham, RHP, Indianapolis – Disabled List

10. Ke’Bryan Hayes, 3B, West Virginia -[insert_php] display_top30(663647,’B’,’20160601′);
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11. Kevin Newman, SS, Bradenton – Disabled List

12. Yeudy Garcia, RHP, Bradenton -[insert_php] display_top30(650817,’P’,’20160601′);
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13. Steven Brault, LHP, Indianapolis – Disabled List

 14. Stephen Tarpley, LHP, Bradenton – [insert_php] display_top30(605501,’P’,’20160601′);
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15.Cole Tucker, SS, Bradenton – [insert_php] display_top30(657061,’B’,’20160601′);
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16. Chad Kuhl, RHP, Indianapolis – [insert_php] display_top30(641771,’P’,’20160601′);
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17. Max Moroff, 2B, Indianapolis -[insert_php] display_top30(621559,’B’,’20160601′);
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18. Mitch Keller, RHP, West Virginia -[insert_php] display_top30(656605,’P’,’20160601′);
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19. Clay Holmes, RHP, Altoona – [insert_php] display_top30(605280,’P’,’20160601′);
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20. Willy Garcia, OF, Indianapolis -[insert_php] display_top30(591994,’B’,’20160601′);
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21. Brandon Waddell, LHP, Altoona – [insert_php] display_top30(663399,’P’,’20160601′);
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22. Tyler Eppler, RHP, Altoona -[insert_php] display_top30(621169,’P’,’20160601′);
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23. Barrett Barnes, OF, Altoona -[insert_php] display_top30(608627,’B’,’20160601′);
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24. Trevor Williams, RHP, Indianapolis -[insert_php] include_once (‘./p2-stats/stats_functions.php’);
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25. Gage Hinsz, RHP  – Extended Spring Training

26. Adrian Valerio, SS – Extended Spring Training

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28. Kevin Kramer, 2B, Bradenton -[insert_php] display_top30(596012,’B’,’20160601′);
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29. Jordan Luplow, OF/3B, Bradenton – [insert_php] display_top30(656669,’B’,’20160601′);
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30. JT Brubaker, RHP, West Virginia -[insert_php] display_top30(664141,’P’,’20160601′);
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P2 Top Performers

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Prospect-Watch-Indy

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INDIANAPOLIS — Tyler Glasnow did not allow a hit in his rain-shortened start against Rochester.

And with that you can file this outing in the category of deceptive line scores. That’s because Glasnow walked four batters and threw 74 pitches, but only 38 for a strike.

His control did not get a glowing review from Indianapolis manager Dean Treanor.

“He struggled with all of it – fastball, curveball, and changeup,” Treanor said. “He didn’t throw many changeups. I thought his sequences were kind of leading him into that. It was just a rough day for him. He can’t have days like that.”

Glasnow estimated he threw six or seven changeups on Wednesday. The velocity on his fastball sat in the 94-95 MPH range, and occasionally touched 96.

He walked one batter in each of the first four innings, and the only time he retired the side in order was the fifth inning. But at the end of that inning, a heavy rain started which led to a 2 hour, 15 minute delay. The delay put an early end to Glasnow’s outing.

Glasnow said he “didn’t feel that good going out,” and that he felt more comfortable in the stretch than he did in the windup. He noted all four of his walks came with nobody on base.

“And I have the past couple of years,” Glasnow said. “It was hard for me to figure out the rhythm of the windup and I was trying not to think about it, but once I went to the stretch everything felt good.”

Rochester’s lineup was missing two of the hitters that have caused problems recently, as top prospects Byron Buxton and Max Kepler were both promoted over the last two days.

And while this was the second consecutive outing Glasnow did not throw many changeups, a pitch he needs to develop, that wasn’t the most concerning thing for Treanor.

“He’s got to throw it, but the biggest thing for me today was that he had no command at all,” Treanor said. “And his misses were misses, it wasn’t like he was just missing.”

Indianapolis almost threw a combined no-hitter with Rochester not getting its first hit until their was one out in the ninth inning.

Glasnow opened the game by walking Wilfredo Tovar, throwing three consecutive balls to open the game. After several pickoff attempts, Tovar attempted to steal second but was thrown out by catcher Jacob Stallings. Tovar had two stolen bases in the previous game on Tuesday. However, Stallings made a throw that probably would have thrown Tovar out at second on Tuesday, but the ball was dropped by second baseman Alen Hanson.

Jason Rogers and Danny Ortiz nearly led to this game being called after five innings, due to the weather delay. They were responsible for the first run in the game and it came in the bottom of the fifth, just minutes before the heavy rain caused a delay.

Rogers led the inning off with a triple to the left-center field gap. It was his third triple of the season, which includes the one he hit during his time with the Pirates. Rogers scored on Ortiz’s sacrifice fly to right field.

Adam Frazier had an RBI double in the sixth inning after play resumed. That extends his streak of reaching base safely to 22 games.

Cory Luebke entered for Glasnow once the rain delay ended and pitched two scoreless innings. He retired the order in the sixth and seventh innings, striking out five of the six batters he faced.

Trey Haley relieved Luebke in the eighth and struck out the side. In the ninth, the Indians went to Jorge Rondon and he got one out before allowing consecutive singles. The game ended on a nice defensive play from right fielder Willy Garcia, who caught a flyball and threw out a Rochester runner trying to advance to third for the double play. – Brian Peloza

Prospect-Watch-Altoona-Curve

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Altoona won 2-0 on Wednesday night despite their pitchers allowing a total of 15 base runners. The two teams combined to go 0-for-16 with runners in scoring position. The Curve got their runs in the third inning off a solo homer from Eric Wood (his fifth of the season), and a fielding error in the sixth accounted for the other tally. In that inning, Erich Weiss hit a lead-off single. After two outs, Reese McGuire came up and doubled to left field, where the ball was mishandled, allowing Weiss to score from first.

Cody Dickson started the game and threw five shutout innings, but his control wasn’t good. He allowed five hits, four walks and hit a batter, throwing more balls than strikes among his 91 pitches. He was followed by Brett McKinney, who had the same issues. He too threw more balls than strikes, walking three batters, yet he threw two shutout innings. Josh Smith closed it out with two innings of work for the save.

The Curve had six hits and a walk, with seven different batters reaching base. Besides the Wood homer and McGuire double, Austin Meadows also added an extra-base hit, a ninth inning triple (his fourth of the season). Stetson Allie hit his fifth double and Anderson Feliz had a single and a stolen base. Jose Osuna is 3-for-24 in his last eight games. He hit .239 in May and has homered once in his last 28 games.

Prospect-Watch-Bradenton

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Bradenton lost 7-3 on Wednesday morning to Palm Beach and Stephen Tarpley had another rough outing. Tarpley missed the beginning of the season due to an oblique injury and he has yet to put up a strong start in his return. In each of his first four starts, he had one really bad inning that hurt his game, either runs being scored or the other team just ran up his pitch count. On Wednesday, that happened twice, as he went four innings, allowing five runs on eight hits and one walk, with four strikeouts.

In the second inning, Tarpley recorded the first two outs on just five pitches. That was followed by four straight hits. After breezing through the third inning, the fourth frame had three more hits and a walk, leading to three more runs. That ended his day with 81 pitches, 50 for strikes. Tarpley was doing a good job of limiting hits in his first four games, while walks were hurting him more. He had better control in this game, though more strikes led to more hits. He has 22 strikeouts in 23 innings this year.

The offense managed three runs, scoring once in the second, fourth and eighth innings. Cole Tucker had a double and scored a run. He is 3-for-11 in three games with Bradenton. Pablo Reyes had two hits, his sixth stolen base and a run scored. Jordan Luplow had two hits and an RBI. Jerrick Suiter hit his second homer of the season. Michael Suchy had a single and an RBI.

This game had something that probably doesn’t happen often. Backup catcher Tomas Morales was the only Marauder player who didn’t reach base in this game. He was also the only one not to strikeout at least once.

Prospect-Watch-WV-Power

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It’s not often a player drives in seven runs in a game and gets overshadowed, but that happened to Carlos Munoz today in West Virginia’s 19-7 win. Around the same time we named Tito Polo our Player of the Month for May, he started June off with a double and a home run…in the first inning. He was far from done though. Polo homered again, hit another double and finished with a walk, scoring four times and driving in four runs. He now leads all Pirates with eight homers and 17 stolen bases. Polo has a .939 OPS through 42 games.

Munoz still had a big day, matching the seven RBIs from Jacob Stallings last night. Munoz hit his third homer of the season in the seventh, driving in three runs. He also had an RBI single, a sacrifice fly, and doubled home two more runs in the eighth inning, his ninth double of the season.

Logan Hill has had an awful time since being sent down from Bradenton. He homered in this game and drove in three runs, but he also struck out four times, which was two more times than the rest of the Power lineup. He is 5-for-43 with 20 strikeouts with West Virginia.

Ke’Bryan Hayes had three hits, including his eighth double. He scored three runs, walked and drove in a run. Mitchell Tolman had three singles, a walk and scored four runs. Ryan Nagle had two doubles (11 on the season) and drove in two runs. Danny Arribas had a single, two walks and drove in two runs. John Bormann was the only player without a hit, but he did draw a walk and get hit by a pitch to extend his season-long on-base streak to 16 games.

Lost in the game was the fact Logan Sendelbach couldn’t return to his early season form, giving up six runs (four earned) on nine hits in seven innings. There were some positives though despite the hit/run total. He threw 63 of his 81 pitches for strikes, walking none and tying his career-high of seven strikeouts. That strikeout high came in his last start when he also allowed four earned runs. Sendelbach had a 1.32 ERA in five April starts and that number skyrocketed to 6.08 in five May starts.

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54 COMMENTS

  1. Geez. Poor Tyler Glasnow. Based on things I read on this site (including comments from Pirates management) it is hard to believe this guy is a top prospect.

    • He’s 22 and sat 94-96 with his fastball today and had a plus-plus curve in his previous game. When his fastball is on, you’re talking about a 6’7″ frame, with longs arms and a long stride towards the plate, throwing on a downhill plane at that velocity. That’s why he is a top prospect is the system each of the last two years and he had the same issues back then that he has now, except he’s slightly improved his control since then.

      I think what throws people off is that he has always had problems, they are just magnified now because he’s trying to get to the majors. He got promoted in the past despite the issues, but AAA to the majors is where that stops. He’s not regressing this season, he’s just not progressing fast enough for the people who want him to be an ace in the majors

      • Thor sits 96-98 when I’ve seen him pitch and he’s got that short windup. Should we expect Glasnow’s velocity to go up a notch or two as he matures? A guy who is 6’7″ sittting 96-98 with good control would be unfair, but awesome for Bucco fans.

  2. No hits and no runs in 5 innings…..and everyone is terribly disappointed. Come on, talking about a glass half empty approach. I wish the Pirates got 5 shutout innings every day from there starter.

    • I’m not sure if you mean people commenting or Glasnow/Treanor’s comments after the game, but fans are disappointed because they want him up to help the team and that won’t happen the way he is pitching now. Glasnow and Treanor are obviously disappointed because the only good part was his velocity (you can throw in controlling the running game too). Treanor is also a little mad about the changeup usage, especially since it’s been mandated to go to it more often and now two games in a row he didn’t use it enough.

      People have to remember that Glasnow is still only 22 years old. Not many pitchers are polished at that age. You want him to look good every game, but you can’t be down on him if he doesn’t. There are good reasons he is the #1 prospect in the system, he just needs to put those good reasons together more often.

  3. glasnow walks the first batter each of the first 4 innings, seems like he is working on holding runners on and throwing from the stretch.Has a caught stealing and no stolen bases.

    • His pick-off move was considered awful to start last year and it got a lot better by the end, but it’s even better this season. That was partially due to the Pirates telling pitchers to worry about the hitter prior to last year, so you rarely saw pick-off throws from the younger pitchers

      • I was just going to ask about this. I watched a fair bit on milb tv and the improvement from what I saw last year is dramatic. I mean he seems to have come a looooooong way as far as holding runners on.

        • His big three things to work on coming into this year were:
          1. changeup
          2. fastball command
          3. holding runners on

          I think you can check three off that list as an issue. Now it’s just more about the other two problems.

          • To have a 2.07 ERA in AAA after two months, I’ll take his “problems” and I would plug him in the Pirates rotation with Taillon tomorrow.

          • Right on John. Also it is good training experience for Josh Bell at first taking the pick-off throws.

  4. I’ll be very interested to read the recap on Glasnow. So far – no hits, no runs but four walks and half the pitches thrown for balls tell a pretty mixed story.

    • I’m not doing the recap, but he is basically showing exactly why he’s a #1 prospect, while also showing why he isn’t ready. They can’t do anything against him, yet he has no fastball command and his curve looks horrible. I honestly don’t understand how he can go from having his best curve last game, to it looking as bad as it ever looked five days later. Velocity is real good, so that’s another plus, hitting 96 consistently

      • So what is working? Are they chasing stuff out of the zone? Guess I’ll have to wait for the recap.

        • There were some chases out of the zone, including one on a 3-1 pitch that would have put him in trouble, but instead it ended the inning with a grounder to 1B. I’d guess that about 30 of his 74 pitches were actually in the strike zone. It wasn’t just that he missed the zone a lot, he was missing by a lot in some cases. Stallings was busy behind the plate. They only hit three balls hard, all the others were pop outs and soft grounders

            • When his fastball is on, no one squares it up, because he’s coming from so close to the plate with that long stride, while throwing downhill and hitting 96 MPH. If he ever consistently does that game-to-game, then he will be an ace in the majors. It’s hard to get it inning-to-inning from him though. Today it wasn’t even back-to-back pitches

              • John in percentage terms what do you think chances are we don’t see Glasnow make his Pirates debut until June 2017? That’s my fear with the inconsistency and how the Pirates like to get their money’s worth out of every asset. If he’s not ready until middle of August will they call him up(assuming he is ready by then)

                • I don’t think there’s any chance he doesn’t pitch this year. I think they expect him to be a starter in 2017. You just may not see him until later in the year than we expected coming into the season. I’d be surprised if he is up this month, but who knows 5-6 starts down the line.

                  • If he could be ready to contribute by middle to late July I think that would be fantastic. Seems a little optimistic to me though.

                    • One thing you have to remember with super two is that it will hold back certain players who look ready to contribute. Once it passes though, it allows you to bring up players who may not look MLB ready at the moment, but they can work on things in the majors.

                      We have mentioned numerous times that Taillon looked ready for at least the last 2-3 weeks, so he would be an example of the former. Glasnow doesn’t look ready now and it’s highly unlikely his next AAA start will change that, but the deadline will have passed and now you can let him work on things in the majors if he can indeed out-pitch anyone in the rotation. So he may not look ready, but after June 10th, he just needs to be an upgrade to be useful.

                • I’d not be shocked if Glasnow remained in the minors for all of 2016. Why would the Pirates want Glasnow to work on his mechanics pitching to ML hitters during a title run?

                  We’ll see….

              • The pictures themselves are almost unbelievable. When he gets that right foot down it looks like he’s on top of the plate.

                • When he was in Altoona last year’s Deacs I watched him closely, and he will be very difficult for hitters to handle when the consistency is there. Fun to watch as a Pirate fan !

                  • If he puts it all together he’s gonna be a must watch every 5 days. Hopefully the change up comes along and we get to see him before September.

      • I’m relieved to hear about the velocity. The lower numbers the last couple games had me irrationally concerned that there was an injury.

        • I thought last game it may have had something to do with all the pick-off throws, because he actually makes strong throws to first base, it just takes him awhile to get that 6’7″ frame around to make the throw. They are basically like extra pitches. Today though, he made 13 pick-off throws and 74 pitches with no real easy innings, so it’s great to see him still hitting 94-96 the whole time. That’s a lot of work for five innings.

          • Good point John.
            His pick-off attempts held the runners close. No steals. Stallings threw out one caught stealing at second base. Stallings is a gem catching many wild pitches. He jumped high to catch one pitch.

      • While Tyler’s FB and curve command have been erratic, I like his sequence of pitches. He’s not going FB, FB, FB, hook. He’s mixing all three pitches. Not a lot of change-ups, but the higher FB velocity today has made for a better separation of speed versus that change. Plus, Tyler obviously continues working on controlling the running game with a ton of throws to first. The IL’s leading base stealer was caught by Stallings. Tyler should share some credit for not allowing a big jump.

        • Stallings is a terrific pitch caller and an all-around strong defender who has made some amazing throws this year. He calls the pitches, the bench calls the pick-offs.

          • I was really upset about Diaz being out with injury and thought Stallings couldn’t possibly be a AAA-worthy player (perhaps I was looking at his offensive numbers too often). But, MAN, he’s impressed me behind the plate. And what’s great is that he’s like an on-field coach. No doubt he’ll eventually follow in his dad’s footsteps by entering the coaching ranks.

    • Mark A….Let Google be your friend. 🙂 🙂

      From Wiki:

      Game Score is a metric devised by Bill James to determine the strength of a pitcher in any particular baseball game. To determine a starting pitcher’s game score:

      Start with 50 points.

      Add one point for each out recorded, so three points for every complete inning pitched.
      Add two points for each inning completed after the fourth.
      Add one point for each strikeout.

      Subtract two points for each hit allowed.
      Subtract four points for each earned run allowed.
      Subtract two points for each unearned run allowed.
      Subtract one point for each walk.

      114 is the max score.

      • FanGraps has a slightly different version that includes HRs and is available on their leaderboards…
        So Locke’s game Monday had an 82 GS on MLB – and 87 on FG…
        Here is the average GS [fangraphs] for the Buc starters.
        Cole – 54
        Locke – 47
        Nicosio – 45
        Liriano – 45
        Niese – 44

        All five Cub starters have higher averages than Cole…
        Arrieta – 68
        Hendricks – 60
        Lackey – 60
        Lester – 58
        Hammel 57

      • That formula is decent as a relative measurement between pitchers, however, if an alien came down from another galaxy, threw a perfect game of 27 pitches all resulting in weak grounders back to the mound, that would only be an “87” despite being the most amazing game ever pitched. And that galaxy would then be pissed off and destroy Earth.

    • prospects like tarpley always have the chance of it all clicking one day and going on a super run!

    • This could also just be adjusting back from his early-season injury. Those usually leave guys less sharp than they otherwise would be.

  5. Let’s get that stuff back to where it was Tyler and maintain velocity near 94 mph after 3rd inning. And some decent separation on the changeup and fastball. Thanks.

    • TG comp in fangraphs is AJB, well Burnett threw a no hitter once, with a bunch of walks, so I guess the comp is pretty accurate.

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