Yesterday’s Morning Report was about the improvements we have seen in the last two starts from Nick Kingham. It was also about where he stands for next year. Tyler Glasnow pitched brilliantly on Sunday and he also has a good reason to talk about his current minor league status.

I’ve watched all of Glasnow’s Triple-A starts, this year and last year (only missed one of the eight in 2015). He clearly has a different mentality on the mound now than he did last year. He is also clearly a better pitcher than what we saw in Pittsburgh this year, and that could be due to his better mentality. There is also the fact that he ditched the windup throughout the entire game, so that in itself makes his time in Indianapolis different.

What we are seeing from him since he was sent down in early June is someone who attacks hitters. His velocity is the best we have seen from him, hitting 100 multiple times and 99 MPH has been a regular guest on the radar gun. It’s not just in Indianapolis, other parks have the same numbers. He hit 99 a few times last year during the season, but he’s now hitting it more per game than he did all of last year. When his velocity drops later in starts, it’s now in the 94-97 range, instead of 92-94 we saw late in games last year. Part of that could just be him throwing more strikes, so he isn’t having as many strenuous pitches throughout the game due to long innings. In fact, longer innings are rarely showing up anymore, when they would happen 2-3 times a game last year.

The fastball isn’t just faster, it’s around the plate more. He was all over the place last year in Triple-A, often getting help from impatient hitters, which wasn’t happening when he went to the majors. Now he is blowing fastballs by batters in the zone, instead of them chasing the pitches. His curve is being thrown more often for strikes and he is using his changeup effectively. In yesterday’s game, the pitch was getting a swinging strike in the zone almost every time. He kept catchers very busy blocking pitches last year, but that isn’t happening this time around. Of course there are some wild pitches here and there, but it’s a huge difference.

You’re not seeing or reading about the same Glasnow as last year. We were critical of him because he had high standards as the top prospect back then and he wasn’t living up to them. The results were there, but it wasn’t pitching that could carry over into the majors. What he is doing now is something that could carry over to Major League success. The big issue is just figuring out if he’s going to keep that same attack mode once he gets to the majors. Trusting his stuff all of the time is key, even though it will get hit sometimes because he is facing the best hitters in baseball. Can he carry this stronger mentality over to Pittsburgh? That is something we will find out once he comes back up.

That brings up the big point and it’s something I mentioned before. With Glasnow starting last night and Indianapolis off today, he next scheduled start is Saturday. That is 22 days before the Pirates could pick up an extra year of service time by leaving him in the minors. If he is turned around, or at least to the point where you will get more good than bad, it would be nice to have him for the next six years instead of five years.

So the question now is, do the Pirates see if he is ready at this point, which he really looks like deserves a shot now…or do you let him make another four (or more) starts for Indianapolis and then bring him up? Indianapolis could make the playoffs, so while that’s a far cry from the majors, Glasnow has had some of his worst minor league outings during playoff games over the years. That would actually be a good test for him, to see if he can conquer those ghosts of playoffs past.

** A couple current Pirates broke ties on the all-time team lists on Sunday with some semi-recent Pirates. Andrew McCutchen was tied with Jason Kendall for 16th place in hits with 1,409 each. He hit three homers yesterday, as I’m sure you all know. Next up for McCutchen is Bill Virdon at 1,431 hits…and yes I’m assuming today isn’t his last day with the club. McCutchen is just four games played behind Manny Sanguillen for 16th place. He’s also one extra-base hit behind Dave Parker (524) for the seventh most in team history.

The other tie going into yesterday was Gerrit Cole, who was tied with Bob Walk for 22nd place in strikeouts with 650 each. Cole struck out eight batters, putting him one behind the man who was traded away at this time last year, Francisco Liriano.

** I was going to do Prospect Status watches every Sunday, but Max Moroff and Jordan Luplow are the only ones on the team and who knows if either of them will be around for Tuesday’s game. The team could look exactly the same later tonight or be totally different. So I won’t bother mentioning that Moroff is still 58 at-bats short from graduating and Luplow has started his big league career 0-for-7 with a walk.

PIRATES GAME GRAPH


Source: FanGraphs

TODAY’S SCHEDULE

Today’s Starter and Notes: The Pittsburgh Pirates defeated the San Diego Padres on Sunday evening by a 7-1 score. The Pirates have off today, as they travel home for a three-games series against the Cincinnati Reds, which begins an eight-game homestand. Jameson Taillon will go up against Homer Bailey in the opener.

In the minors, Bradenton was rained out yesterday, so they will play a doubleheader, with Mitch Keller getting the start in the first game. Logan Sendelbach is scheduled for game two and he has allowed two earned runs over his last 26.2 innings. The GCL Pirates are set to send Max Kranick to the mound, and he will likely be followed by Cody Bolton. After telling you all of that, I’ll note that the forecast for Bradenton is supposed to be rain all day, so neither of these teams might play.

Altoona is going with Brandon Waddell, who will try to use the last five weeks to make up for what has mostly been a lost season. His last start with Altoona came on June 4th. West Virginia has a doubleheader today, with Eduardo Vera scheduled for the first game. He ranks just outside the top ten in the SAL with his 3.18 ERA and his 1.13 WHIP. Indianapolis has off today.

MLB: Pittsburgh (51-54) vs Reds (42-63) 7:05 PM 8/1
Probable starter: Jameson Taillon (4.03 ERA, 25:73 BB/SO, 76.0 IP)

AAA: Indianapolis (59-49) @ Columbus (56-51) 7:05 PM 8/1 (season preview)
Probable starter: TBD

AA: Altoona (54-51) vs Erie (54-52) 7:00 PM (season preview)
Probable starter: Brandon Waddell (4.55 ERA, 14:28 BB/SO, 27.2 IP)

High-A: Bradenton (59-43) vs Palm Beach (57-45) 4:00 PM DH (season preview)
Probable starter: Mitch Keller (3.28 ERA, 20:60 BB/SO, 71.1 IP) and Logan Sendelbach (2.88 ERA, 16:40 BB/SO, 56.1 IP)

Low-A: West Virginia (47-54) @ Lexington (49-54) 5:35 PM DH (season preview)
Probable starter:  Eduardo Vera (3.18 ERA, 10:73 BB/SO, 87.2 IP) and TBD

Short-Season A: Morgantown (23-15) @ Williamsport (21-16) 7:05 PM (season preview)
Probable Starter: TBD

Rookie: Bristol (9-29) @ Danville (19-19) 7:00 PM

GCL: Pirates (11-18) vs Yankees East (14-13) 12:00 PM

DSL: Pirates (26-22) vs Rangers1 (28-19) 10:30 AM (season preview)

HIGHLIGHTS

Here are two highlights from Gift Ngoepe over the weekend. First is the rare offensive highlight.

Followed by the not so rare defensive highlight from him.

RECENT TRANSACTIONS

7/28: Jordan Luplow promoted to Pittsburgh Pirates. Edwin Espinal promoted to Indianapolis. Jordan George promoted to Altoona.

7/28: Austin Meadows assigned to GCL Pirates on rehab.

7/27: Logan Hill placed on disabled list. Justin Maffei assigned to Altoona.

7/27: Steven Brault optioned to Indianapolis.

7/25: Connor Joe activated from Altoona disabled list. Justin Maffei assigned to Indianapolis.

7/25: Jonathan Schwind assigned to Morgantown.

7/23: Adrian Valerio placed on disabled list. Andrew Walker assigned to West Virginia.

7/22: Gregory Polanco placed on the disabled list. Steven Brault recalled from Indianapolis.

7/22: Hector Garcia assigned to Morgantown on rehab.

THIS DATE IN PIRATES HISTORY

Seven former Pittsburgh Pirates players born on this date, plus 17 trades of note between 1987 and 2011. Also an impressive debut during a season the Pirates won the NL East. Because there are so many trades of note and they have all been covered before, I encourage you to check this link for the full rundown. I was going to copy and paste it, but it’s a long list.

First the game, and Tim Wakefield made his Major League debut on this date in 1992, defeating the Cardinals by a 3-2 score. He pitched a complete game, striking out ten batters. Wakefield threw 146 pitches, both runs were unearned and Barry Bonds hit a two-run homer. More on this game inside the link above, along with a boxscore.

The seven players born on this date include:

JJ Furmaniak, infielder for the 2005 club

Mike Bielecki, starting pitcher for the 1984-87 Pirates and the team’s first round pick in 1979.

Frank Brosseau, pitcher for the team in 1969 and 1971. Made one appearance during that World Series winning season.

Vic Davalillo, 1B/OF for the 1971-73 Pirates. Hit .285 in 99 games during the 1971 season.

Elmer Riddle, pitcher from 1948 until 1949. Won 12 games in 1948 and threw 191 innings, but a leg injury ruined his 1949 season. His brother Johnny was his teammate on the 1948 Pirates.

Erv Kantlehner, pitcher from 1914 until 1916. Threw a four-hit shutout in his pro debut, yet issued seven walks.

Joe Sugden, catcher from 1894 until 1897.  Went nine seasons in a row without hitting a homer. Played in famous 1912 Tigers game, in which the team protested Ty Cobb’s suspension, so they filled out the lineup with amateurs and coaches. That game happened seven years after his Major League career ended. Tigers lost 24-2.

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76 COMMENTS

  1. He throws 99/100 down there then comes up and throws 94. Hopefully he brings the velocity with him this time.

  2. And the Glasnow we saw in Pgh was not the one we saw in Indy. Let’s see what happens when he gets 2 men on base and can’t find the strike zone. I’ll get interested when or if he can put together 2 quality starts in Pgh.

  3. I would think that if the Bucs want to shake up their rotation in August, the first guy to deserve a shot would be Brault.

    • I agree. Glasnow got his three month shot; Williams and Kuhl knocked him out of the rotation. So I wouldn’t demote them and Brault deserves the next shot.
      I was kind of hoping we might have traded Williams or Kuhl for a 3B with some years of control.
      That would solve an immediate need and open an opportunity for Brault/Glasnow

      • Good idea, preferably Williams. Kuhl is one of those guys that will figure it out eventually and make us look foolish for trading him. I.E. Jason Schmidt, Esteban Loaiza, etc. Kuhl actually reminds me of Schmidt, trading him this soon would make me nervous.

    • ” The first shot ” will be determined according to who their scouts and MiLB coaches determining who has the best chance of succeeding in the long run. Highest ceiling

      • Thank you!

        This ain’t Little League. The guy that’s “most deserving” is the guy with the best chance to give the club the most value. Doesn’t matter if that’s “fair” or not.

  4. Man, it’s to bad Ngoepe’s bat misses a lot of balls, because his glove would be one of the best in the Majors!!! Praying for that guy!!!

  5. IF TG has turned a page, next year’s rotation looks pretty good.

    Cole
    JT
    TG
    Nova
    Williams (who has been our 2nd best pitcher since his disastrous first start)

    It is NEVER too early to start looking ahead to next year, right (esp with NH’s inaction)?

    • i know williams has been fine so far, but man. i just don’t like him. he has such average stuff.

        • point taken….but it’s too early to compare the two. williams could easily go the locke way

          another point. williams is on pace for about 2 WAR, his rookie year. pretty surprising

  6. My question would become, why does it appear the Pirates prospects seem to abandon the approach of attacking upon reaching the majors? That goes for both pitchers and hitters. As soon as the likes of Moroff, Brault, Glasnow, etc. reach the majors, it seems they revert back to being timid and struggle. When Brault pitched 3 innings against the Giants, he looked like he wanted nothing to do with throwing close to the zone.

    • I think that the difference in talent levels between AAA and MLB is so great that it shakes a rookies’ confidence and they tend to abandon what got them there. It seems to happen either immediately or in the dreaded sophomore slump.

  7. At this point keep him down. Neal did nothing after the Brewers series or GP’s injury to help this outfield or this bullpen. Decent pieces were going at firesale prices. Why the hell burn a year of Glasnow’s service time now?

    • something i find rather interesting is, all year the pirates have shown they’re not a good team. one lucky hot streak, and people are clamoring to add to the team. then when it doesn’t happen, they complain about it. adding a 4th outfielder or reliever to the team, wouldn’t make this a good team. it would just make a below average team, an average team.

      • nmagera07………I disagree……….Adding Jay Bruce/Melky Cabrera or Asdrubel Cabrera / Jed Lowrie would’ve been MUCH better than adding Max Moroff and Jordan Luplow.

        And I doubt that the price would’ve been that steep.

        • Agree on three of the four, but Asdrubal Cabrera has been terrible this year. He is a way-below average fielder and has been no more than an average hitter in four of the last five years. Check his defensive metrics and you’ll see why he can no longer play SS.

      • It cost basically nothing to add solid relievers. Look what Brewers did with Swarzak.

        So who cares, you’re basically trading some flotsam that might not even make the 40 man crunch. So if this isn’t a good team what have you lost?

        But more importantly if you’re right and this simply isn’t a good team what does that say about the man who assembled it. Mr. Neal Huntington?????

        If Kang and Marte are back we are what? 3 games better? Maybe, maybe not. So wow, we might be a 500 team. A 500 team with Cutch playing like a MVP. People have no idea how bad things are going to be once he leaves. I mean sure, they’re bad now but it’s going to get a lot worse.

        • this is all on neal, yes. he did a fine job making this franchise a stable and viable franchise again. but at some point, we are going to have to take the next step. he hasn’t shown the ability to do that. perhaps it’s time for someone else to take over

        • Kang, Marte and Polanco available regularly, and McCutchen showing up before the 3d week of May wouldn’t have produced more than 3 wins ? Ohh Kaaayyy

        • They are also in this position because Cutch stunk the 1st 2 months of the season when they fell below 500

      • What you’ve left out is context.

        If the Cubs had jumped out to a 100-win pace in April and the Pirates played as they have, they’d have been ten games or more back in both the division and wild card by July and nobody would obviously be feigning interest in them being actual contenders.

        But, the fact is the Cubs didn’t. The context of the Pirates’ situation was that their competition presented an opportunity. And that opportunity was exaggerated by the fact that talent was changing hands at costs not seen in years due to a relatively extreme buyers market. And Neal Huntington never even bothered to attempt to seize the opportunity presented.

        Now the chances were always high that the Cubs would eventually get hot, and this *isn’t* a very good Pirate team. But this *could* have been a much, much better team with JD Martinez and two actual, Major League-quality relievers behind Rivero and Nicasio. And that would’ve cost not a single top ten prospect. And that would’ve at least given them a chance at capitalizing on the opportunity at hand if the Cubs never ended up going on that run.

        • Exactly. On all counts. And he did nothing. But I’m sure many who still are big Neal fans will defend his trademark passivity.

          • It’s just disappointing.

            Pragmatically speaking, nmagera is correct. This isn’t a good team. I, of all people, certainly couldn’t argue otherwise.

            But as a fan of the *team*, did it not feel genuinely good to see them rattle off some wins while Chicago stumbled? Did Cutch being the best hitter on the planet for two months, Rivero lights out to close games, and Cole start showing ace stuff not excite you? At least give you the feeling that *maybe* a few tweaks would put them in a position to at least contend through the summer? Sure as hell did for me.

            For the cost of marginal prospects that would only have an outside chance of being impact players down the line, I would’ve gladly eaten my words and cheered adding to this team. Even if I knew the likelihood of it all working out would be small.

            He just makes it so damn hard to get exited about this organization anymore.

            • Exactly. It wasn’t likely to work but was worth the chance to roll the dice because cost to take that chance was exceedingly low. What will be comical going forward is people defending Neal’s appropriate assessment of a poor team he built based on their west coast trip.

        • perhaps you are right. i just don’t think this is a very good team, regardless of who they added, that was available.

          this team has one of the worse fundamentals, i’ve seen. defensively, they’re bad. there is not one plus defender on the team. they make outs on the basepaths. they have no power. the positives are that they don’t strike out much, and walk at a slightly above average rate.

          starting pitching wise, we have no great pitchers. cole and taillon are good, not great. kuhl/williams/nova are average. the bullpen sucks. rivero is great.

          it’s just not a well constructed team, and it’s all on NH. frankly, i’ve been a staunch NH supporter for years. but stepping back and looking at the bigger picture….he hasn’t been great. in my opinion.

          • Your criticism on the lack of power is spot on. But the rest is complaining about what is poor production from otherwise good players.
            The Cubs are mediocre this year, one year after winning the WS, with essentially the same players. Does the Cubs GM bear responsibility for their .500 play? I think not so much. I put the blame on the players. Same for NH and the Pirates.
            You could say yeah, but the Cubs went out and got Quintana. But that’s apples and oranges. The Bucs will never have the Cubs resources.

            • pirates would be in better shape, had marte not been suspended and kang wasn’t being a dumbass. no doubt. however, that still brings up some problems with the team. the defense would still be bad. baserunning will not be improved. their hitting would be better. but the pitching would still be average, and the bullpen still below average.

              the cubs are well over .500 now and look to be back on track after a slow first half.

              as far as your comment about resources, are you saying the pirates couldn’t have pulled off a quintana trade? if so, why is that? money wouldn’t be a problem. quality of prospects is the problem. and if our prospects weren’t as good as the cubs….where does the blame lie?

            • The Cubs are 8 games ove .500. They are not a .500 team so what are you talking about? Moreover, the Cubs didn’t have obvious holes in their lineup all year that their GM ignored. Moreover, the Cubs general manager didn’t stand in front of TV cameras and say we’re going to spend the money we’ve saved on Marte and Kang “just as soon as we can.”

              It’s The GM’s job to get the best players he can. It’s a players job to play as hard as they can. You really haven’t had underperforming players this year. You can blame Marte for being suspended and Kang for being a moron but the truth is, most of the players on the roster have outperformed expectations.

              I think it’s perfectly fair to blame the general manager putting together a team as lousy as this one.

        • That comment I wouldn’t argue with at all. The reliever situation and puttting Marte back right into the leadoff spot has completely baffled me.

      • I also disagree. Whatever they are, management allowed them to be this way by failing to do anything to replace Kang or Marte or to shore up the obvious weaknesses that make this 2 steps forward, 3 steps back kind of team. So their prior inaction should justify further inaction? I’m sorry but I don’t buy that. So many games were lost with slight margins — you really can’t say that bolstering the line up with bonafide major leaguers wouldn’t have made a difference.

        • this management team is very risk averse (to a fault). they wouldn’t have traded prospects (who they like) for a player who may or may not have worked out.

          not saying that’s right or wrong. that’s just what i think their mindset is.

          • I think you are correct in your analysis BUT both choices involves players possibly not working out — trades or prospects. It is more probably that prospects will fail to materialize than already proven major league players. So where are they really avoiding risk? Its a fool’s errand they are taking everyone on.

            • Aside from bullpen additions, I don’t see how the Bucs could have added anyone with higher ceilings than the player that the new addition would have replaced. Who is out there that is a slam dunk that the Pirates should have obtaind?

              • The 3b acquired by the Sox from San Francisco would have stabilized 3B and bolstered the bench by allowing Freese to start fewer games. There are corner outfielders galore available w/o a strong demand for them (i.e. its a buyer’s market). As you mention, there are bullpen arms aplenty. Quintana’s price actually went down from where it was previously as a clear upgrade over Kuhl and Williams.

                • Nunez is an okay player, but if that is the profile of what you want at 3B then just move JHay there and play Frazier/Moroff at 2B.
                  What corner outfielders have a better upside than Marte/Polanco ? I’d rather wait for our guys to turn it around as we aren’t the Yankees who could eat their contracts.
                  The Cubs could trade prospects now because they have a lineup set for years to come largely because they stunk when the Pirates were just getting good, blew up their team and stocked their roster with young talent. The two teams are out of phase right now. But the Bucs will be great in 2019-2020.

                  • Well I respect your opinion but I think the Pirates would be best served with Moroff in the minors and Frazier a spot-starter in your scenario. I certainly like JayHay at 3B but then I’d find someone to play 2B in his stead who would be an upgrade over those guys. Marte won’t be here for the playoffs. I wouldn’t suggest replacing Marte or Polanco as starters but we lack a true 4th outfielder to take some starts. I don’t think you’d have to mortgage the future to obtain a rental 4th outfielder.

              • JD Martinez alone has been worth 1.6 WAR more than Frazier, Osuna, and Jaso combined in the outfield and could’ve been had early enough to be flipped again at the deadline if the Pirates never ended up true contenders.

                • 4th outfielder was a hole that I’d guess they expected Meadows to fill, but Meadows “took the season off”.
                  The Bucs don’t have a wheeler dealer rent a player for a month approach, true enough. It would be hard to consistently pull off winning trades wih that approach though.

      • I 100% concur. The time to add to this team was in the offseason. Now it’s too late.

        To me the most telling stat is that they’ve only used starting six pitchers all year. Despite the remarkable lack of injuries or performance issues to the starting rotation they find themselves to be mediocre in every pitching statistic there is. The key to winning in baseball is starting pitching. The front office’s strategy was apparently to build a young good staff and we really are getting to see the best pitching this team has to offer this year. They don’t have any excuses. However the Pirates “team strength” is just mediocre.

          • Cubs rank 7 in ERA. Pirates are 13. The Cubs starting pitching has been below par for them. The Pirates starting pitching, has largely been better than expected.

            Don’t give me wrong, starting pitching is actually the least of the Pirates worry. My point was that even though that’s true, starting pitching is just average. They are just not that good.

            They have a below average team from top to bottom. They’ve played above their heads to scratch mediocrity. They’re going to end the season seven or eight games under 500 based upon their startling lack of talent. Mark my words.

      • Agreed.
        But what is weird is that they have a lot of players that could all of a sudden, like Cutch, start playing much better. Cole may have turned a corner, or not? Would it surprise if Polanco returned from injury and started to play up to potential? What if Marte returned to 2016 form? What if they switched JHAY to third, played Frazier at 2nd and Frazier’s bat began to play like his streak? Would it surprise if Glasnow returned and pitched at a 3.5 era level and Williams returned to the bullpen and pitched well in the 7th?
        They don’t have to add new players, their own players could become “new players” overnight.

        • that’s all certainly possible, and i have no doubt the pirates are expecting that. but that also points to a problem. they’re always banking on everything going right for the team.

          rarely does that ever turn out to be the case

    • Exactly…….the night Polanco pulled up lame a move should have been made. The team was on the best streak in baseball and the GM sat on his hands. Contrast that with Cubs, who moved aggressively on Quintana and and in other areas and the team responds with a winning streak. Madden is telling the world his GM made the moves to bolster the team, send a message, and it worked.

      • You wonder if NH was/is looking for any reason to not do something.
        I would say with:
        – three free agents (3B and 2 RPs)
        – a bench of Diaz, Meadows, Freese, Frazier, and Osuna or Newman
        – assuming Kingham gets the 5th spot that gives us AAA depth of Eppler, Holmes, Brault, Williams, and either Kuhl or Glasnow
        – Santana and Neverauskas would create a lot of competition in the pen
        That’s a much better team in 2018

  8. The other part of that issue is that he would be called up as a starter. Who would he bump? Nola could use a skipped turn, but other than that, the rest of the rotation has earned the right to remain in place. Short of a trade I don’t see Glasnow coming up before rosters expand, and then being used for spot starts.

  9. If the Pirates make no moves to improve their team, while the Cubs are adding everyday, it does not make sense that they would then bring up Glasnow and waste a year of service time. Which means they are probably going to bring up Glasnow and waste a year of service time….

    • yep. at this point, let Glasnow prove it for another 5 starts. Kuhl and Williams have been fine. It’s not like Glasnow would be worth 6 WAR to catch the Cubs from now till the end of the season.

      • I think that’s the key point for me: Kuhl and Williams have been good! Not great, but above league average. So where would you stick him? It’s possible that Kuhl could move to the pen, which could be interesting. But the Bucs have a perfectly solid rotation going. No room for Glasnow.

        • League Average ERA is .435. Both Kuhl and Williams are below average MLB pitchers which for your 4 and 5 isn’t necessarily unexpected. Pirates pitching as a whole is mediocre, not good.

          • Since June, Williams’ ERA is 4.11. Kuhl’s is 3.74. (3.86/3.27 ERA this month) So no, they’ve been above average the past two months.

            • Good points. The Pirates are 13th of 30 in Team Pitching; 18th of 30 in Team Fielding; and 23rd of 30 in Hitting, and 29th of 30 in Team HR.

              The hitting and power can improve greatly, but not if the same people continue in the same coaching positions. Fire Hurdle & the hitting coaches; Keep Searage. Hire Cora and let him select his own staff except for Searage.

        • From my vantage point Kuhl has not been good or even average. There is plenty of opportunity for Glasnow with the Bucs if the GM thinks it would make a difference. That said, no on in the Pirate organization is going to spend any prospects or limit the value of players to make a run for it this year with this team.

    • That’s an excellent way to frame that pitch, but if the Pirates know anything, it is how to milk that 172 days so that NOBODY slips in with just 22 days remaining.

      Great write-up and maybe he is ready – it is still not worth losing the extra year of service, especially since our odds of making the playoffs in 2017 are ridiculously slim. If he comes up later in August, he will still get 4-5 starts at the MLB level that will give him more than enough prep for a strong 2018.

      • Home Game Wed, August 23 or Thu Aug 24 against the LAD or just hold him for the Home Series with the Cubbies at the beginning of Sep?

    • Year of control for what? If we need that extra year of control to save money, then we will never be a championship team. If this year is over, then by all means bring him up. That way he will be more prepared for next year.

      • he’s clearly learning things at AAA. i dont think staying in AAA and being more prepared for next year are necessarily mutually exclusive.

      • Great point — for what? There’s a certain assumption in the logic of manipulating Glasnow for potential future vs. current benefits. That assumption is that the benefit of that extra year outweighs the benefit of starting him now. Who knows what will be happening 6 years from now — they may be way out of contention. Maybe Glasnow will disappoint, blow out his arm, etc? six years from now, they should have other prospects ready to contribute. Probably they’ll continue in their mediocrity; hand-wringing over a decision to make a deadline move vs. hoard their mediocre prospects for the “future”. This pathological focus on the “future” and getting future value is ultimately a loser’s mentality. It causes the team to over value its prospects and pass real chances to win.

        • It is true that Glasnow is pitching better now than before he was sent down But so are Kuhl and Williams. They were better than Glasnow then, it’s uncertain whether he has passed the now.

          • Well one or more of these guys plus Brault are going to be moved to the bullpen eventually. I don’t see any harm in moving someone now.

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