Pirates Discussion: Keller Looks to Salvage Series

Nationals bottom three pitching staff has so far limited the Pirates bottom three offense.

Pirates have moved up the home run leaderboards, but unfortunately a lot of those home runs have come with no men on base.

A resurgent Mitch Keller (2-5, 4.77) will look to salvage the series in Washington, D.C., going up against Paolo Espino (0-1, 2.21).

Espino has very limited starting experience, having only started his last three appearances, out of his 23 total appearances this season.

Espino, a RHP, has been dominant against lefties (.480 OPS against), so hopefully there will be some reverse magic.

PIRATES @ NATIONALS

Time: 1:05 PM EST

Pirates Starter: Mitch Keller (2-5, 4.77)

Rays Starter: Paolo Espino (0-1, 2.21)

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redwards60

Keller appears to be nothing more than a mediocre back of the rotation guy as a starter. Maybe he’s better suited in the bullpen? The Pirates bullpen needs help. Starters can’t seem to pitch more than 5 innings and the pen is getting overused and exposed… Crowe is Exhibit A. Bring Burrows up and put him in the rotation…Keller can push Stratton out the door.

HeyFred

Can we get a thread only to discuss this super weird 4 out rule? I’m dying to cipher this shit. Dude doesn’t tag, and if no one appeals it’s okeydoke? That’s like hidden ball trick, but for runners.

Last edited 1 month ago by HeyFred
1979andCounting

I think MLB will be putting out a statement that the umps blew it. Adrianza, by stepping on the bag, was in effect appealing that Jack left early. The crew chief statements is that Adrianza must verbally say he’s appealing the runner left early when stepping on the bag. I don’t think so, this happens all the time in doubling up runners who don’t tag. It doesn’t matter if he already tagged Park for the third out. The rule then says the defensive team can take the out that benefits them the most, which would of course be taking Jack’s out by stepping on third.

1979andCounting

Thank you Navas! RTFJR!!

RAS TN

Yippee!!!

skliesen

Raise it! Ugliest win of the season except for Reynolds of course.

redwards60

He appears to be a keeper…good timing with Crowe breaking down

roibert.kasperski

WoooHoooooo!!!!

skliesen

Cruz does things no other SS has ever done…often.

joebaseball

in the field, not at bat.

roibert.kasperski

Go Yerry Go!!!!

roibert.kasperski

No history for Reynolds today!! MLB Network Jinxed him!! They just had to have a live lookin to watch the attempt……

joebaseball

Strike zone for their pitchers is bigger than for Buc’s pitchers again today. When does robo ump get to MLB?

ArkyWags

Yeah it’s the zone that’s the reason their pitching is crud. That’s it.

roibert.kasperski

Can’t wait till Framing is a relic. It is going to be interesting to see how many of the big breaking ball pitchers will turn into strike out artists when they can bend a ball and hits a corner of the zone after starting way high and wide and then going way low. Those are never called strikes now but should be called strikes and will be virtually unhittable.

roibert.kasperski

That sucks if you are pitcher

john_fluharty

That’s a really good point. Some guys are really good but are actually penalized for it because of the umpires.

skliesen

File this inning under better to be lucky than good.

Shelton will now feel justified to keep overworking bullpen arms for another month.

Mtgj

They all let up runs. Blaming the woes of the bullpen on Shelton is hard to figure out. Until we have guys that can get outs and put up zeros then it’s going to be hard to manage. We have 1 bullpen arm that is reliable, I don’t blame Shelton for trying different things. When a guy looks good and pitches a good first inning I actually like the idea of keeping him in for another inning. It worked very well early in the year, No doubt it hasn’t worked lately but you can’t just blame the manager every time relievers stink.

PirateRican21

They have a 14 man pen, he keeps using them two innings, the second inning seems to be the one they have the most trouble if not all the trouble. If you use the relievers an inning two to three games in a row, you might get better results than using them once for two + ineffective inning per every four days. Add to that, using that “tactic” in close games, not matching up and sticking to that approach, when you have an expanded bullpen is nonsensical. I could understand getting length in a game that you are either ahead or behind by let’s say 3-5 runs, but is done no matter the situation. That’s just the relievers, could go a paragraph each on pinch running, pinch hitting, and defensive replacement late in games, even something as simple as a consistent line up.

Wilbur Miller

Add to that, using that “tactic” in close games, not matching up and sticking to that approach, when you have an expanded bullpen is nonsensical.

Shelton’s approach is consistently nonsensical because he insists on “scheduling” pitchers for a certain number of innings on certain days. I’ve never heard of anything like that outside of the minor leagues. Determining in advance who’s going to pitch when and for how long does completely defeat the purpose of the huge bullpens the Pirates always carry by removing all flexibility, and all ability to match the pitchers to the situation. And, of course, it absolves the manager from responsibility for in-game decisions, because the “schedule” was already established.

Yeah, the Pirates’ bullpen sucks. But BC doing a terrible job at putting together a bullpen doesn’t excuse Shelton not trying to create the best chances for success.

RAS TN

I will state the obvious they are already overworked and undertalented, so the rest of the year is just a crap shoot…

skliesen

Leaving a RP in too long is definitely one of Sheldon’s spiritual gifts. Watch Beede implode here.

joebaseball

His theory is if you walk him he can’t get a hit, I guess.
A miracle, an out.

Last edited 1 month ago by joebaseball
roibert.kasperski

Perez does a 2nd thing good offensively in the same game and…………the Bucs waste it

Last edited 1 month ago by roibert.kasperski
PiratePrimate

Great bunt!

1979andCounting

I’m in for a 9-out save. Beede’s arm looks fresh. With Yerry on stand-by.

joebaseball

Six outs gets thru the last 2 innings.

joebaseball

Can Cruz resist swinging at pitches out of the zone?

joebaseball

Six straight pitches out of the zone and he swings at two of them. Needs to go back to AAA to learn the strike zone.

docdon385

No one can learn how to recognize and hit major league pitching in the minor leagues. He needs to remain exactly where he is until he gets it.

NMR

oh for fucks sake

NMR

As long as the pitcher throws six in a row he’s okay, apparently.

roibert.kasperski

Wilbur Miller

Hmmm. BRey is guaranteed at least one more AB. Interesting . . . .

Wilbur Miller

They’re gonna need it.

roibert.kasperski

skliesen

Thank God for BRey!

ArkyWags

Not as much as you’d think.

john_fluharty

Assuming we use Tampa Bay as a model for a successful low budget organization, what would they do with him? Are we a playoff team in 23? If not, trade him when his value is high.

skliesen

Shut it!!!

NMR

cue the Bryan Reynolds Vince McMahon meme template!

skliesen

😂😂😂 I’m dying

Wilbur Miller

BRey

PiratePrimate

Mr. Reynolds holds the secret!

Last edited 1 month ago by PiratePrimate
1979andCounting

BRey! Whew!

1979andCounting

We must take advantage of Perez’ one hit per month!! Lets GO!

Wilbur Miller

A PR would be a good start.

roibert.kasperski

No, not Fletch time….. You faked me out !!!

roibert.kasperski

Fletch Time !!!

1979andCounting

Mitch deserved the earned runs.! That was a poor outing.

ArkyWags

This smells a lot like the “if you remove his bad outings, he’s good” rationale I saw with Jeff Locke. 3 in 5 innings isn’t good.

john_fluharty

I was going to ask if we were seeing a flashback of the old Mitch or was the new Mitch just having a bad game. Haven’t watched it yet but I have it on DVR to watch this evening.

Last edited 1 month ago by john_fluharty
NMR

Call me old school but a 5.40 ERA ain’t gonna do it…

1979andCounting

8 hits (not counting the error ruled a hit) plus 4 walks. Three DP’s saved him.

roibert.kasperski

Wham!! another homer!!!!

skliesen

Isn’t hard to see why these are two of the very worst teams in MLB. This is as bad a display of heads up baseball I’ve seen in a very, very, long time.

ArkyWags

At least with the Nats, it was inevitable. They were a consistent contender for nearly a decade, won a WS. In fact, one reason Pirates fans should be warned: two big prospect pieces they were likely counting on to bridge them through the next contender with Soto were Robles and Kieboom.

NMR

Rebuilds are terrible for the game of baseball.

Wilbur Miller

Especially when they stop at the teardown part.

skliesen

I know this is going to come as a surprise to some of you, but Pirates are not a well coached team.

1979andCounting

Ruiz didn’t tag on that foul pop up that dropped, Nats announcers not happy. It’s bad coaching contagion.

skliesen

These teams need to be relegated.

skliesen

Just when you think you’ve seen it all. I’d be hot if I was a Nats fan right now.

skliesen

#FreeBae

roibert.kasperski

LOL! This is the stuff that usually happens to the Pirates on Defense. Get an inning ending DP but do it in the wrong fashion to allow a go ahead run to score. Amazing….

1979andCounting

This is a BAD umpire crew…lol

1979andCounting

Bell caught the ball. It’s a DP. Lol

roibert.kasperski

ArkyWags

This team figures out new and exciting ways to muck up an inning.

PiratePrimate

You can’t fool the Fatman!

PiratePrimate

Robo Ump, please!

skliesen

Clearly MLB sent their worst Umpire crew to work this series.

1979andCounting

We need to see the Umpire Scorecard tomorrow. Navas is really bad today, for both teams.

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