Pirates Discussion: Reds Beede The Pirates

Fresh off an exhilarating victory, the Pittsburgh Pirates couldn’t carry the momentum.

Through three innings it appeared they might get some length out of Tyler Beede. He managed to give up only one unearned run scored from an Oneil Cruz error– his 8th this season — but things got out of control in the fourth.

With runners on 1st and 2nd with two outs Beede gave up a 2-run double followed by a two-run home run to give the Cincinnati Reds a 5-0 lead. That would be all the Reds needed on this night as the only offense the Pirates could generate was a solo shot by Rodolfo Castro — his third this season –in the bottom of the fourth.

After the Reds built a 5-1 lead the Pirates bullpen would hold the score until the ninth. Chase De Jong kept his solid season going throwing two scoreless innings and collecting four strikeouts. Yohan Ramirez threw two scoreless innings of his own with two strikeouts. Eric Stout had his worst appearance on the season for the Pirates giving up five earned runs in just a third of an inning. Duane Underwood Jr. replaced Stout and finished off the ninth’s final two outs.

Not much to speak on with the Pirates offense other than Castro who finished 2-for-4 with the home run and raised his OPS to .700 on the season.

Reds @ Pirates

Time: 1:35 PM EST

Pirates Starter: Zach Thompson (3-9, 5.51)

Reds Starter: Mike Minor (1-10, 6.31)

Thompson Notes: Zach Thompson will be making his 21st start of the season three days after an appearance out of the bullpen. Thompson’s 94.2 IP this season is the most he’s thrown in a year since 2016 when he threw 140.2 IP in the minors. The appearance out of the bullpen on August 18th didn’t go well as he lasted only one out and gave up two earned runs. It’ll be interesting to see how he fares a few days later and if he’ll be allowed to pitch very long.

LINEUPS:

Pirates

Reds

1. Jake Fraley (L) DH
2. Jonathan India (R) 2B
3. Donovan Solano (R) 3B
4. Mike Moustakas (L) 1B
5. Nick Senzel (R) CF
6. Matt Reynolds (R) SS
7. TJ Friedl (L) LF
8. A. Aquino (R) RF
9. M. Papierski (S) C

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chappy

Reynolds looked like he was going to get hot and then gave us a 1-13 against incredibly poor pitchers. What the heck?

AdministrativeSky236

I guess hitting a baseball is just hard

RAS TN

4th worse record and 2nd worse run differential and the Braves are next up…

1979andCounting

Manny was scheduled to pitch the 6th and nothing’s going to change DS’s mind…
30+ pitches later Reds put up crooked number 4!

Wilbur Miller

I’ve been out a while and got back to see there’s been another classic Cheringtoon waiver wonder bonfire. I guess no amount of consistent failure is going to dissuade him from his favored method of stocking the pen.

The thing that’s so aggravating is that it’s so easy to make it look like you’re kinda trying. It’s just in the nature of relievers. These guys have some ability or they wouldn’t have gotten this far, so of course, pitching in one-inning stints, they’re going to have a fair number of games where they look good. But if they’re actually not good, every third or fourth or fifth game they’re going to have a meltdown like Banuelos today, Stout yesterday and Ramirez against Boston. But Cheringtoon or Dumbo can just prattle about how they need to be “more consistent.” Except they are being consistent with the sort of reliever they are, which is a AAA depth guy who, on a team that gave a sh*t, would be on a minor league deal.

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Todd

What really got me is they bring Vieaux back after he passes waivers through the
league. It’s ok for the dumpster-diving Pirates. I don’t think there is a AAAA type
that could not find a job here

GreenWeenie

I feel sort of a kinship with Ben now. I once made a dive like that in little League.

chappy

Just for the record: Mike Minor is 1-10 with an ERA North of 6….the Pirate hitters may want to remind themselves….

chappy

As I was looking at Baseball Reference to see that Moustakas is at -1.2 WAR he, of course, homers.

slider1971

Is it that he loves hitting at PNC or more likely he LOVES hittin

slider1971

Against Pirate pitching…?

jtkuch

When is Moustakas a FA? Can’t think of a better DH signing, he clearly loves hitting at PNC

chappy

I think you missed the -1.2 WAR….

jtkuch

That’s why he’s a perfect *Pirates* signing

bucsws2014

Odd Gamel stat: he leads all of MLB in hard hit balls in high leverage situations at 55%. Schwarber is 2nd at 50%. Judge is down at 6th at 47%.

bscat

I’d like to see the occasional long ball . . . just sayin”

AdministrativeSky236

I was just thinking how clutch hes been this year!

TNBucs

That’s very impressive but overall he’s only 91st at 42%. So what’s going on in those non-high leverage situations? I know it’s harder than just flipping a switch, but this stat raises as many concerns for me as hopes.

As an aside, overall our highest ranked player is Hayes at 49% (22nd).

jtkuch

Still can’t believe they couldn’t get anything for him at the deadline

TNBucs

TOOTBLAN by Gamel or just bad luck? (I’m in MLB’s blackout area for the Reds.)

forkball

bad luck – line drive .. maybe if he had no lead

1979andCounting

Gamel was much too far off 3rd and breaking toward home on contact, so it’s a TOOTBLAN imo.

TNBucs

When seeing the result on Gameday, my thought was how do you get caught off third with the force not in play and only one out? That seems like the kind of mistake we’d be all over a rookie for but Gamel has 6+ years in the league.

1979andCounting

Rabelo was speaking w Gamel just before the pitch. I think they had that stupid play on of going on contact. And IF was in too.

TNBucs

I don’t mind the contact play but don’t you need to be sure it’s on the ground? Again, I didn’t see it so if it was a low liner I can understand the confusion, but the split second between going on contact and going on contact with a negative launch angle is negligible.

1979andCounting

No it was a head-high line drive all the way.

1979andCounting

Fraley looks like a nice LH post-prospect for the Reds. If he can stay healthy, which has been a huge problem with Seattle and Cincy. Yet our LH prospects haven’t taken advantage of PNC right field porch, except Suwinski who can no longer make contact….lol. Madris, no. Cal, no. JVM, no. Gamel, no. Allen, Tucu, Yoshi all no.

bucsws2014

It’s a hard-to-repeat way to score runs, and it was the opponent, but I have to admit I did enjoy the oddity of seven straight singles over the typical bases-clearing (and rally-killing) HR.

RAS TN

FWIW the Steeler’s performance last night was to be kind bad, still can’t run the ball and still can’t stop the run…I sure hope the Pirates are not rubbing off on the Steelers…

RAS TN

Beede has a place on the Pirates but it’s not a SP going out every 4 or 5 days…

BTW if BC is happy with the performance of DS then tanking is still the preferred approach from the Pgh Pirates…

Wilbur Miller

Uh-oh. 1-10, 6.31. The Pirates always get the toughest matchups. So much bad luck . . . .

jon6er

Recipe for a shutout with the yet to be listed lineup we are likely to see with VM and Padblo probably at first and third.

AdministrativeSky236

Fantastic title to this article lol

Wilbur Miller

It’ll probably get better known soon.

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