Prospect Watch: Roansy Contreras and Quinn Priester Headline a Full Schedule of Games

Full schedule today, as all seven Pirates affiliates will be in action. Indianapolis has a doubleheader today. Roansy Contreras will go for Indianapolis, in what could be his final start before returning to the Pirates for the rest of the season. He went four innings last time out, so could get to five this time, or increase his pitch count (61 last time out) enough to be fully stretched out for his return. Quinn Priester is listed for Altoona tonight, but he would be going on five days for the first time all season. I’m not saying he isn’t pitching tonight, but I left it TBD.

YESTERDAY’S RESULTS

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TRIPLE-A: INDIANAPOLIS INDIANS

Game Time: 6:05 PM DH

Box Score: LINK (Game One)

Starting Pitcher: Roansy Contreras (0-1, 2.76)

  • Final Line:  5 IP, 8 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 6 SO

Notable Performances:

Diego Castillo 1-for-5, 2B

Travis Swaggerty 2-for-5, 2B, RBI, SB

Jack Suwinski 2-for-5, BB

Kevin Padlo 3-for-3, 2B, HR, 4 RBI, BB

Cal Mitchell 1-for-3, BB

Mason Martin 3-for-4, RBI

Game Recap:

This could be the last start in Indianapolis for Roasny Contreras, as he got stretched out to 71 pitches tonight (47 strikeouts). He was not sharp, with three runs on eight hits and a walk in five innings. He has a 3.15 ERA in 34.1 innings with Indianapolis this year. Nick Mears tossed a scoreless sixth, then Travis MacGregor tried to finish things out, but he gave up four runs and Eric Hanhold had to get the last out to save the 8-7 win. Kevin Padlo had an outstanding first game with Indianapolis, collecting a single, double, homer, four RBIs and a walk. Jamie Ritchie also reached all four times up, with two hits and two walks. Mason Martin had three singles. Travis Swaggerty hit his 12th double and stole his 12th base. Jack Suwinski had two hits, a run and an RBI.

GAME TWO

Box Score: LINK (Game Two)

Starting Pitcher: Osvaldo Bido (1-6, 5.35)

  • Final Line:   2.2 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 1 SO

Notable Performances:

Cal Mitchell 1-for-3

Diego Castillo 2-for-3

Jack Suwinski 0-for-3

Kevin Padlo 0-for-3

Carter Bins 0-for-3

Game Recap:

Starter Osvaldo Bido allowed three earned runs over 2.2 innings in game two of the doubleheader. He was followed by John O’Reilly, who got the final out of the inning while stranding an inherited runner. Cody Bolton took over and he tossed a scoreless fourth, then gave up two runs in the fifth and left the bases loaded without recording an out. Cam Alldred came on and struck out the side on ten pitches, stranding three inherited runners. Zach Matson pitched the sixth and gave up two runs, as Indianapolis lost 7-0. The Indians used up all of their offense in the first game. They had four hits in this contest, all single, two of them by Diego Castillo. They didn’t come close to scoring, failing to get a single runner to second base all game.

DOUBLE-A: ALTOONA CURVE

Game Time: 6:35 PM

Box Score: LINK

Starting Pitcher: Quinn Priester (1-3, 2.35)

  • Final Line:  5 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 8 SO

Notable Performances:

Jared Triolo 2-for-4, 2B, RBI, BB, 2 SB

Connor Scott 0-for-4, BB

Endy Rodriguez 1-for-4, RBI, BB, SB

Blake Sabol 2-for-4, 3B, 2 RBI, BB

Malcom Nunez 1-for-5, RBI, SB

Liover Peguero 2-for-5

Matt Fraizer 1-for-3, RBI, BB, SB

Game Recap:

Quinn Priester pitched on a five-day schedule for the first time this year and he did well in his five innings, giving up two runs on four hits and two walks, with eight strikeouts. He threw 81 pitches, with 55 going for strikes. Priester now has a 2.49 ERA and 46 strikeouts in 43.1 innings with Altoona. Cristofer Melendez allowed two runs while recording two outings. Brad Case gave up one run in 1.1 innings. Colin Selby allowed one run in two innings for the save. The Curve got their first two runs on a Blake Sabol triple. Malcom Nunez singled him home. Matt Fraizer had an RBI single in the fourth and Aaron Shackelford hit a two-run homer in the sixth, his 22nd homer. Jared Triolo and Endy Rodriguez had RBI singles in the ninth, which were the difference in the 8-6 win. Triolo hit his 17th double and also had a walk. Sabol and Liover Peguero each had two hits.

HIGH-A: GREENSBORO GRASSHOPPERS

Game Time: 6:30 PM

Box Score: LINK

Starting Pitcher: Justin Meis (1-4, 5.97)

  • Final Line:  6 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 6 SO

Notable Performances:

Jase Bowen 1-for-3, HR, 2 RBI

Abrahan Gutierrez 0-for-4

Hudson Head 0-for-4

Game Recap:

Starter Justin Meis allowed two runs over six innings, with three hits, one walk and six strikeouts. He now has a 5.56 ERA in 11 starts with Greensboro, picking up 44 strikeouts in 43.2 innings. Jack Carey allowed a run in the seventh, then Eddy Yean  retired all six batters he faced for the save in the 6-3 victory. Two players in this game had ridiculously similar games. The Grasshoppers got solo homers from Luke Brown and Jase Bowen to lead-off the bottom of the first inning. Both players also picked up sacrifice flies and they both hit ground balls that turned into runs on an error. Brown and Bowen accounted for all six runs. The rest of the lineup had three singles, with Jackson Glenn leading the way with a single and two walks in three trips to the plate.

LOW-A: BRADENTON MARAUDERS

Game Time: 6:30 PM

Box Score: LINK

Starting Pitcher: Luis Peralta (0-5, 6.64)

  • Final Line:  4 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 5 SO

Notable Performances:

Tsung-Che Cheng 2-for-4, 2B

Sergio Campana 1-for-2, BB, HBP, SB

Juan Jerez 1-for-3, RBI, BB

Bubba Chandler 1-for-3, RBI, BB

Deivis Nadal 0-for-4

Game Recap:

Bradenton won 6-4 on Thursday night. Luis Peralta started and allowed two runs on five hits in four innings, with one walk and five strikeouts. He has a 6.46 ERA in 46 innings, with 77 strikeouts. Darvin Garcia allowed one run over three innings for the win, and Carlos Lomeli got the save for one run in two innings. Bradenton scored first on a Juan Jerez ground out. Their second and third runs came on the second homer of the season by Norkis Marcos. The fourth run scored on a sac fly by Wyatt Hendrie. Brenden Dixon hit his sixth homer and Bubba Chandler had an RBI single. Sergio Campana reached base three times and stole his 24th base. Tsung-Che Cheng hit his 18th double.

RK: FCL PIRATES

Game Time: 12:00 PM

Box Score: LINK

Starting Pitcher: Antwone Kelly (0-1, 3.52)

  • Final Line: 3 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 4 SO

Notable Performances:

Termarr Johnson 0-for-2

Braylon Bishop 0-for-4

Solomon Maguire 0-for-3

Javier Rivas 1-for-3

Omar Alfonzo 0-for-3

Jesus Castillo 0-for-3

Game Recap:

The Pirates lost 4-1, committing more errors (four) than hits they collected (three). Antwone Kelly had a strong start, throwing three no-hit innings. Michell Miliano allowed three runs in 1.1 innings, but just one was earned. Ryan Harbin allowed one run in two innings. Termarr Johnson played his second game, this time as the DH, and he went 0-for-2, grounding out to first base and striking out. Javier Rivas hit his eighth double. Tanner Tredaway doubled and scored the lone run. Nick Cimillo drove him in with a single. The Pirates had no walks and 12 strikeouts. Cy Nielson and Mike Walsh, eighth and ninth round picks this year, were both added to the active roster but neither played. Emilson Rosado was released.

RK: DSL PIRATES BLACK

Game Time: 11:00 AM

Box Score: LINK

Starting Pitcher: Jonathan Salazar (0-4, 5.70)

  • Final Line: 1.2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 3 SO

Notable Performances:

Angel Rodriguez 1-for-3, SB

Ewry Espinal 0-for-1, BB

Robert De Paula 0-for-1, RBI

Eduardo Oviedo 0-for-2

Rodolfo De La Cruz  0-for-3

Game Recap:

The Pirates had just two hits, but they won 2-1 in extra innings (eight innings). Starter Jonathan Salazar lasted just 1.2 innings and he gave up a run, then three relievers gave up two hits over 6.1 scoreless frames. The Yankees still had their chances due to six walks and a hit batter from that trio. The Pirates scored in the fourth on a sacrifice fly by Robert De Paula. They walked it off in the eighth on a wild pitch that scored catcher July Vittini, who was making his pro debut. He was the free runner in extra innings, who advanced to third base on a ground out.

RK: DSL PIRATES GOLD

Game Time: 11:00 AM

Box Score: LINK

Starting Pitcher: Keneth Quintanilla (0-2, 4.57)

  • Final Line:  3 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 3 SO

Notable Performances:

Ruben Vizcaya 2-for-5, 2B, SB

Yordany De Los Santos 1-for-5

Eddy Rodriguez 0-for-5

John Zorrilla 0-for-3, 2 BB

Gustavo Armas 0-for-3, RBI

Roinny Aguiar 0-for-2, 2 BB

Game Recap:

The Pirates Gold clinched their division title on Thursday with a 5-1 win. Starter Keneth Quintanilla and reliever Victor Cabreja each tossed three no-hit innings. The Yankees got their first hit with two outs in the seventh and then finished with two hits. The Pirates scored four runs in the second inning. Lennyn Nunez singled home the first run. A Gustavo Armas ground out made it 2-0. Ruben Vizcaya’s fourth double made it 3-0. Wesley Zapata singled in Vizcaya. A passed ball in the fifth scored the final run. Isaias Dipre had two doubles, giving him 14 on the season. He also stole two bases, giving him 14 steals. Zapata hit his 15th double. Tony Blanco Jr struck out as a pinch-hitter in his first game this month.

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SufferinBuccotash

Termarr….2 games…..no hits…..time to cut bait….

KirkV12

Endy Rodriguez with a rough day on defense. Sheesh. Impressive that Priester still finished with a good start

TNBucs

When K’s >= BB’s + Hits, I consider it a quality start and Priester did that last night. Meis and Peralta also met that standard, though typically I’d want to see a pitcher go 5 and Peralta only went 4.

Bucs'N'Pucks (Jeff Reed)

Tony Blanco Jr. sighting

Last edited 1 month ago by Bucs'N'Pucks (Jeff Reed)
CTBucco

Nice catch! I missed it completely. The pulled him out of mothballs for a PH AB. Well, at least we know he hasn’t retired.

skliesen

I was so hoping to see Roansy pitch in SF this weekend. The fact he’s pitching for Indy today instead is proof this management team could care less about the fans or the player.

And don’t even think of coming back at me with the lame excuse AAA innings aren’t the same as MLB innings. I ain’t buying that bullshit.

bradlej31

He wasn’t a stud prospect pitching 132 innings as a NYY prospect. I’d prefer the dominant 80 inning pitcher.

skliesen

And I’d prefer Pirates management put out a product that demonstrates a willingness to win. This team has become accustomed to losing far too much. Playing the best 26 guys to give team the best chance to win nightly seems like a no-brainer if the goal is to turn the losing around before next year. Impossible to argue Roansy isn’t a key player in making team into a winner.

bradlej31

He’s a 80 inning pitcher. Burrows is a 120-140 inning pitcher. Priester is a 150 inning pitcher. The later are two more valuable.

Bucs'N'Pucks (Jeff Reed)

We got an AJ Graham appearance coming today!

hoffmark83

That’s just Yoshi disguised as AJ Graham.

Wilbur Miller

How do you disguise yourself as somebody who doesn’t exist?

Wilbur Miller

Fake news. That’s a crisis actor.

Bucs'N'Pucks (Jeff Reed)

Cobra

If I were Contreras’ agent, I would be filing a complaint against the Pirates for blatant service time manipulation. I would consider not having him pitch in these game (i assume if he gets injured in AAA there are different salary/benefits implications than if he were in the Majors where he obviously belongs).

Want to talk about limiting innings? Go Google Alex Anthopoulos & innings limits and tell me how we , as an organization, should be viewed as having a better philosophy and track record on protecting our pitchers & developing successfully pitching than the Atlanta Braves

The Pittsburgh Pirates management & organization is a total joke. This to me is Exhibit A

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TNBucs

In terms of signing him long-term, the manipulation (if that’s what it is) would still have an impact in terms of what a fair deal would be. I.e., the FO would offer one figure if he had four years of arbitration before free agency and another if only three years of arbitration.

I’d love to see them sign him to an extension, but I also think it’s less like they’ll do that with a pitcher than with a position player.

TNBucs

Yes, the agent will only agree to something that benefits Contreras but if Contreras stands to earn less through arbitration than he would if he was Super Two, then it also doesn’t require as much money from the Pirates to make an extension beneficial.

The agent may not be happy about it, but at the end of the day it’s all about risk vs. reward between signing an extension for $x and going year-to-year with projected earnings of $y. If y is smaller (which it is without Super Two), then x is bound to be smaller.

Anthony

Yeah, I wonder what those arb salaries look like when he spends 12-18 months rehabbing from TJ and another year building his arm back up.

TNBucs

I have no problem with them limiting his pitch counts, but last night he threw 71 pitches in 5 innings. Why can’t those be with the Pirates? One can say that minor league innings are less stressful but I bet he’s putting very similar strain on his arm in terms of velocity and spin.

And I may have a little more confidence in our major league pitching coaches than you do, but I’d think we’d want him under the watchful eyes of Marin and Meccage. Or do you have more confidence in our AAA staff than our MLB staff? (I actually do with our hitters, but not for our pitchers.)

Anthony

This is more about getting his work in under a controlled environment than anything else. On a 26-man MLB roster, his limitations can have rippling affects on the bullpen. He’s def not going to be used as short- or long-relief as he needs to be kept on a 5-day schedule. If he throws +30 pitches in any inning he’s yanked, plain and simple, and there is no guarantee that 70 pitches equals 5 innings. No one is saying he can’t or shouldn’t continue his development at the MLB level, it’s just the accommodations that need to be made do not make sense when you can accomplish the same goals in AAA.

W/r/t the stressful innings argument, I’m not sure it’s really about MiLB innings being less stressful than it is about where he is in his build up versus last year. He only pitched about 60 innings last year; he’s now well over 80 innings with about 6-7 weeks left in the season. If he ends the year at 110 combined innings, that’s an 80% increase over last year. That’s a pretty big increase YoY, and I would argue that anything over the 80 inning count should be monitored extremely close as innings 80-110 are going to be inherently more stressful simply for the fact that he hasn’t pitched that many innings since 2019. The ultimate goal is to get the work in and keep him healthy in 2022, then he is set up to pitch about 150 MLB innings in 2023.

NMR

That’s all perfectly logical, except for the fact that they’ve got half a dozen guys in the lineup each night flailing away who could easily benefit from it as well.

You gotta admit it’s extremely convenient that the only one they’re allowing to accomplish those goals in AAA is also inarguably the one who has the greatest earning potential.

Anthony

Agreed, the optics don’t look good, but this is also not about first order consequences.

I’m not touching position player development goals, altho health is a relative given.

jsdspud

Exactly, TN. Service time manipulation surpresses future earnings potential, which lowers the value of an extension.

Anthony

I really don’t think you guys understand how mlb contracts are negotiated. Extensions ONLY happen when a player agrees to them. If a player feels like their service time has been manipulated, they ultimately have the final say in any extension. You guys are operating as if there is this one magical equation to determining extensions. Further, the “value” of an extension can have more to do with how the payments are structured rather than the total dollar amount.

TNBucs

It’s arrogant and disrespectful to tell us we don’t understand how MLB contracts are negotiated because we disagree with your take. Extensions happen when the player thinks it’s in their best interest, simple as that. Sure, they can hold a grudge about service time manipulation but in the end it’s risk vs. reward of locking into a guaranteed amount vs. going year-to-year to free agency. Projected salaries via arbitration factor into that and being Super Two or not has a big impact on those projected salaries. I think we’re seeing some of that play out with Reynolds, though based on his recent comments I’m optimistic that we’ll extend him.

And of course the value of an extension has something to do with how payments are structured. As many of us commented at the time, it’s why Hayes’ deal is much better than the total amount implies, for example.

Anthony

You seem to be arguing in a vacuum. If the Pirates want to extend RC, they will not be haggling over Super Two status. The “value” of the extension will always be compared to the alternative but that’s not what will ultimately determine the extension itself.

Rob Baran

Why wouldn’t the Bucs manipulate his service time in a throwaway year? It’s one of the only advantages small market teams have, and they all do it.

I’m very content with Suwinski & Contrares not likely getting a shot at Super-2 Arb. Both have things they can work on in AAA now they’ve had a taste.

This way, their’s a better chance the org. keeps them past 4 years IMO.

TNBucs

“(i assume if he gets injured in AAA there are different salary/benefits implications than if he were in the Majors where he obviously belongs)”

I think this is a factor–perish the thought but if he has an injury in AAA, he doesn’t accrue service while on the IL but if in the majors he would accrue service time. So if you’re going to limit his innings such that even if he’s in the majors he’d have limited impact, the safe thing in terms of maintaining years of control is to keep him in AAA.

This is a pretty cynical view, but the track record of this organization on managing service time leads to some cynicism. (As a fan who wants the players around as long as possible but realizing that the FO will rarely pay market rates to extend players, I have mixed feelings about service time manipulation. But in any case, I don’t think it’s fair to Contreras.)

jsdspud

Two for two, with the explanations today.

Bucs'N'Pucks (Jeff Reed)

While I’ve been leaning more towards there’s no specific proof that limiting innings/pitches is leading to healthier pitchers, idk if the Braves are the best example. They themselves have a pretty bad track record of developing pitchers, let alone keeping them healthy. The quotes from Anthopoulos seem that he realizes that. But also him saying they’re not limiting Spencer Strider for the rest of the season isn’t that much of a outlier. He threw 96.2 innings across 5 levels last year and he’s currently only at 89.2 IP. So they kind of did “limit” him at the start of the season by starting with him in the bullpen.

AdministrativeSky236

Wow! How did you get through 5 levels in one year

john_fluharty

I think Matt Capps went from High-A to the majors in one season after they switched him to relief, but that’s the only case I can remember off hand for us.

TNBucs

I mean you did too–from prospect to AA to AAA to MLB to Stargell Star 🙂

AdministrativeSky236

Well played!

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