Pirates Discussion: B-Rey All Day, Ortiz Shows His Stuff

With the Pittsburgh Pirates coming in on the heels of a four game sweep and Aaron Judge chasing history for the New York Yankees, most chatter wasn’t about whether the Pirates would lose, but by how much.

Things were going great at first, but, you know: The Pirates.

In just his second career MLB start, Luis Ortiz showcased why some have said he has the best raw stuff in the system. He once again lit up the radar guns touching 100.0 MPH twice.

Through three innings, Ortiz held the Yankees’ potent offense hitless. The Pirates offense themselves weren’t able to generate much in the first three innings, but were able to breakthrough in the fourth when Nestor Cortes walked Oneil Cruz to load the bases. Greg Allen followed with a sacrifice fly to push the first run across for a 1-0 lead.

With one out in the bottom of the fourth, Gleyber Torres reached on a single, ending Ortiz’s no-hit bid. Ortiz then struck out the next two batters. The 23 year old Dominican was breezing along before he got a taste of the hapless defense behind him. Starting off the inning, Oswaldo Cabrera hit a flyball to center field that Bryan Reynolds had lined up, before Diego Castillo (while Reynolds was clearly yelling for the ball) hit Reynolds’ elbow with his glove causing him to drop it for a two-base error. Two runs would eventually come across — one earned — by way of two RBI singles making it 2-1.

Ortiz’s evening would end after the fifth with three hits allowed, two walks, two runs with only one earned, and five strikeouts. He threw 45 of his 74 pitches for strikes, with 42 fastballs and 30 sliders. He generated six ground outs to one flyout with an average exit velocity of 85.4 MPH.

In the top of the sixth the Pirates offense quickly took the lead back. Jack Suwinski pinch hit for Castillo to lead off the inning and hit a single. After an out Cruz drew his third walk of the evening. Two batters later with two on and two out Jason Delay lined a ball to the right center gap for a 3-2 lead.

Derek Shelton went with Duane Underwood Jr. after regaining the lead for the sixth and Underwood gave it right back. A wild pitch put runners on second and third with one out when former St. Louis Cardinal making his Yankee debut, Harrison Bader, hit a two-run single to give the lead back at 4-3.

Reynolds led off the seventh inning and took the first pitch he saw into the right field stands for his 24th HR of the season, tying the game at 4-4.

Robert Stephenson came on for the seventh inning. He labored a bit throwing 24 pitches in total, but kept the game tied allowing only a single to go with two strike outs.

Pirates offense kicked things up a notch in the 8th pushing across four runs. Reynolds collected his fourth hit in five at bats with a RBI single, before Rodolfo Castro connected for a three-run HR against former Pirates reliever Clay Holmes. That made it 8-4 and excitement was building.

To the bottom of the ninth inning. We’ll keep this short in saying that Wil Crowe is either not suited for late innings or just really hitting a brick wall. Aaron Judge kicked off the inning with his 60th HR of the season. A walk and two hitters later to load the bases, Giancarlo Stanton stepped to the plate and blasted a walk-off grand slam and 9-8 victory for the Yankees.

Pirates Baseball in 2022.

Pirates @ Yankees

Time: 7:05 PM EST

Pirates Starter: Roansy Contreras (5-4, 3.24)

Yankees Starter: Luis Severino (5-3, 3.45)

Contreras Notes: This will be Roansy Contreras 16th start of the season and if it’s anything like his last, it may not last long at the behest of the front office and coaching staff. He pitched four innings with only 55 pitches against the Cincinnati Reds. He allowed only one earned run with three strike outs and three hits allowed.

LINEUPS:

Pirates

Yankees

1. Aaron Judge (R) RF
2. Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B
3. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
4. Josh Donaldson (R) 3B
5. Giancarlo Stanton (R) DH
6. Oswaldo Cabrera (S) LF
7. Harrison Bader (R) CF
8. Isiah Kiner-Falefa (R) SS
9. Jose Trevino (R) C

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jon6er

Holy cow, lol. Every time I feel like I can’t be embarrassed any more by this organization Nutting says “hold my beer!”

AdministrativeSky236

Personally I went with 3 fingers of whiskey, though after a game like that it really just is dealer’s choice

1979andCounting

John Sherman showing some impatience at KC. Fires GM three years into his ownership.
Is Bob paying any attention? Seriously doubt it.

chappy

We’re not playing the same game…

bucsws2014

Too bad they pinch ran for Judge. The way this is going, his spot might get another AB.

1979andCounting

Where’s JVM when you need him.

jon6er

He’s developing on the list

Shultzie31

Ugh this is ugly

bucsws2014

Hell, let Stout give up 61. What else could he be known for?

TNBucs

There goes Shelton putting a player in a position to (not) succeed–all righties coming up so he brings in Stout who has given up a .997 OPS against RHB. I guess Shelton wants to see Judge get the record tonight.

TNBucs

Way to respect the game Derek.

Shelton will talk about how Stout didn’t execute his pitches, but when you put in a guy who can’t get righties out against a lineup that is almost entirely right-handed, the responsibility should be on the manager.

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roibert.kasperski

welp, looks like Yajure would not have helped if he came in for Crowe last night…….

jon6er

hey he could have got lucky, lol.

bucsws2014

Thought Ro was gonna be limited to 60-ish pitches tonight. Would’ve left on a somewhat positive note if he only went the 4 innings.

jon6er

Shelton has continually contradicted what he has told the “press” and the broadcast team since he’s been here but like Hurdle there is no one who dare question them. These managers and GM’s are never really questioned hard about their failures so they have no incentive to improve on their performances.

AdministrativeSky236

Ro casually with 10 K’s

b mcferren

for a guy who has his number retired, we don’t here much or see highlights of Ralph Kiner

in fact, the only guys from the past that they ever talk about are Steve Blass and Roberto Clemente

its as if noone else ever played for the team

bucsws2014

Probably only because the teams he played for were awful. Blass and Clemente (and let’s add Maz and Pops as both also get considerable mention) all had rings.

b mcferren

forgot about Maz but I disagree about Stargell; Willie is barely mentioned

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roibert.kasperski

Wellll……..poop……..

Timbertopper

Is there a Pirates’ telecast anywhere for tonight’s game. AT&T has Greg Brown doing a Yankees telecast complete with Yankee graphics and speculation on Judge having perhaps the greatest season in baseball history (now that he’s tied for second place on the Yankees’ all-time home run list). Seriously? What a clown show.

roibert.kasperski

To be honest, every team that Judge has been facing for the last few weeks and till the final day of the season will be doing the same thing. He is chasing history. Every one did that for Sosa and McGuire and Bonds. I would expect the same for Judge. I can’t get worked up about it.

jon6er

When Sosa, McGwire and Bonds names are mentioned my thought balloon is filled in with the word steroids, lol.

roibert.kasperski

Steroids and a little cork!  😂  😂  😂 

jon6er

Yeah I forgot about Sosa’s other really embarrassing moment, lol.

roibert.kasperski

I had too until i read your comment and then the cork incident popped in to my head, lol!

roibert.kasperski

Hope that WP got Ro to calm down and is the usual Ro from here on out.

PiratePrimate

First game in over a month last night because birds, bird dogs and $ are important and now I get to watch Gamel roll over into a 1rst inning DP. I haven’t missed much.

ricramer

All of a sudden Delay has 131 ABs.

jon6er

I think he’s holding his own considering someone keeps hanging posters of Endy Rodriquez and Hank Davis on his locker.

joesolo6181

The Yankee broadcast has three things that are commented on for each team so as to clue in the audience as to what to expect. One item for the Pirates was 25K. Paul O’Neill said that was the amount the Pirates paid in a signing bonus to sign Ortiz. Now I think Ortiz was signed as an 18 or 19 year old, so was passed over by all of baseball as a 16 year old. I think he was very skinny and did not throw hard. Well, it may seem the Pirates might have spent very little to get a lot. He looked dominate at times and the radar gun loved him. Lets hope he continues to improve and becomes a staff ace.

roibert.kasperski

I am trying hard to temper my expectations for Ortiz but after watching both times pitching in the show…..

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roibert.kasperski

Happy Ro day Y’all!!!!

bucsws2014

stop it with happy whatever day. all you’re doing is inviting grand slams.

roibert.kasperski

Yes you do…Its RO DAYYYYY!!!!

PirateRican21

Should Castro get a shot at 1b? Eye test tells me he is average at best as a middle infielder, 3b might be best, but that’s taken and the 1b hole is not getting filled anytime soon. Was hoping Davis would move there, but he’s not. Nuñez is intriguing and Gorski is getting rep there, but I think it would help Castro to add 1b to his Utility man versatility.

b mcferren

Malcom Nunez 2 for 3 while playing third base today for Indy

Anthony

I would def try him there with the caveat of Bae getting the majority of reps at 2nd base.

AdministrativeSky236

I wonder how Bae is in CF? Maybe he could be a plus internal option there that pushes reynolds to LF

Anthony

Not sure about the arm, but I would def think he is athletic enough to cover the position.

skliesen

Ortiz could’ve got a win last night if Pirates had played just decent defense. Obviously the Reynolds/Castillo error contributed 2 runs to the ledger, but so did Delay’s inability to stop Underwood’s wild pitch. A good defensive Catcher blocks that ball every time. Delay got lazy, plain and simple. And as a result, Castro has to move in to protect a 1-run lead and Bader hits a 2-run single instead of a tailor made DP grounder to the spot vacated by Castro.

Very much symbolic of how this season has gone for our Buccos.

TNBucs

I noticed that too–the WP/PB ended up being the difference in an inning-ending DP and a run scoring. I’m not that impressed with Delay behind the plate, though defensive metrics seem to rate him as decent.

TNBucs

This gets at our big challenge, which I don’t think Cherington is up to. We know we’re going to be cheap, so we have to not only have a competent GM (I’ll give Cherington that) but a very good GM, and I don’t see any evidence that Cherington is anything special. He’s acquired a lot of talent, but when you’re trading Marte, Musgrove, Taillon, Bell, Frazier, Quintana, Anderson, …, that should be expected. And you get enough lottery tickets, you win some (e.g., Roansy and Endy). Maybe he’ll prove himself, but the bullpen construction thus far has been worrisome.

1979andCounting

I’m tired of the Shelton or BC “talk”. Some reporter or interviewer (ie. Walk) needs to put this chart in front of one or both. Maybe we’d get some straight talk rather than spin.

docdon385

Think anyone needs to see a chart to know the bull pen’s awful? No Pirate announcer will ever challenge management because they work for them. Actually I’ve been surprised that Brown, of whom I am not a fan, has made some honest negative comments recently about the team. Maybe he’s considering retirement.

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AttyMike

Ortiz is an exciting prospect. He had to be jacked for that start. All I can say to Crowe is dude, maybe if you snacked during plays you’d be a bit fresher while pitching.

ArkyWags

What do you do, eat them with your hands?!

Catch_22

Man I’m really liking what I’m seeing with Ortiz. If he becomes the next version of Spencer Strider, that would obviously be huge for this franchise. You trot out this rotation next year and it’s going to be fun to watch…

Keller
Ortiz
Legit FA signing
Contreras
Brubaker

Address 1b, the BP and the corner OF and we might just have something. If I see Diego Castillo in RF again, I’m going to put my fist through drywall. Same goes for Crowe in the 9th. I’m real close to being all in on Castro, that dude is out there having a blast. One of these days he’s going to wear one in the ribs, but I love his style!

Anthony

I would like to see them get better at picking and choosing their spots with Castro. Although a switch hitter, he seems to be better against lefties. A slight bump in contact and walk rates, then trade in some of that HR power for more XBHs, and this guy is an above average ball player.

TNBucs

I’m optimistic about our rotation and I feel good about C, 2B, 3B, SS, and CF. Ben has a lot of work to do at the rest of the corners and DH and, obviously, the bullpen.

b mcferren

no more Brubaker please

1979andCounting

Didn’t Pujois just lecture Castro last week? Castro posing last night towards the dugout on a ball that just got to the second or third row above Judge’s glove……was not a great look. You gotta be sure it’s 410- 420′ before doing that crap.

Catch_22

He’s just out there having fun. Personally, I love it!

TNBucs

Likewise, but I also agree with 1979 that he should save those for no-doubters. In general, though, I love his energy and am glad that apparently the coaches are letting him be himself as long as he runs out popups.

ArkyWags

I was late to the “turn the Bucs from a $40 mil team into a $100 mil team” article from last week. But I noted there that I’d be in favor of signing a pair of legit FA starters (I think I said Walker/Manea, but there others like JT, Heaney, Kyle Gibson etc. who fit), having Keller/Ro/Bru at the other three rotation spots, and moving Oviedo and Ortiz into the pen with Bednar for 2023. Add a very good defensive CF to shove Reynolds to a corner (Kiermaier), sign Mancini and you’ve got an interesting team. Maybe they take a flier on Cody Bellinger if he isn’t tendered a contract. They won’t do any of this, but I’d settle for half of it at this point.

Save a spot for me on the Castro bandwagon.

docdon385

There’s an optimist in the house. Good for you but you forgot about the need to have a manager. This guy can lead anyone off a cliff.

Catch_22

Ortiz is throwing 98,99, 100 and it’s on the black with movement. Kid also has ice water in his veins. Biggest stage in baseball and he didn’t bat an eye.

AdministrativeSky236

Brey gud, cruz eye gud, ortiz gud, castro pimp job on a ball barely clearing the wall gud, bullpen not gud.

Catch_22

Are you drunk? or simply we todd did ?

AdministrativeSky236

Why use lot word when few word do trick

Catch_22

lol Kevin from the office!

AdministrativeSky236

b mcferren

does anyone know what Jason Kendall has been doing since he joined the organization as a special assistant?

joesolo6181

collecting a check.

Wilbur Miller

b mcferren

here is the series of events that explains what is going on

(1) 100 losses is better than 83 losses because of the draft budget – – 100 LOSSES IS THE GOAL

(2) Vanmeter, Tucker, Yoshi == Alford, Kaia Tom == Del Pozo all help ensure the goal of 100 losses

(3) bad bullpen ensures THE GOAL OF 100 LOSSES

(4) Hayes extension was an order sent directly from Nutting to pacify the players association

(5) Derek Shelton is successfully implementing this well thought of plan to reach THE GOAL OF 100 losses

(6) Derek Shelton is John Russel and will be replaced with the Pirates manager who is supposed to be winning: Jason Kendall

Wilbur Miller

Ah, yes, the plan . . . . .

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