Pirates Discussion: Double Tilt on Wednesday

For what would be the fifth game in a row, Sinker Mitch has relied more heavily on his Four seam than his Sinker.

In his previous start against the Milwaukee Brewers, when he struck out ten batters, he threw his Sinker (17.1%) at it’s lowest usage since July 16th (3.2%), which was most likely an anomaly due to Colorado’s elevation. This time around he had a rather even spread in his 100 pitches of Four seam (30%), Slider (27%), Sinker (25%), and Curveball (16%), with two Changeups mixed in.

Against the New York Mets last night, Keller lasted six shutout innings allowing five hits, two walks, and only struck out two batters. He induced eight groundballs (leading to two double plays) and one flyout. With the extra day of rest, the offense decided to show up and back Keller.

Kevin Newman got things started with single in the second inning after one out. He moved to third on a Jack Suwinski single before scoring on a Michael Chavis sac fly.

With Keller throwing up goose eggs the Pirates didn’t wait long to add on to their total. In the third inning with one out, Bryan Reynolds walked on four pitches and then Rodolfo Castro connected for his sixth homerun on the season to make it a 3-0 game. The six homeruns is a new high for Castro after hitting five homeruns in his abbreviated 2021 MLB stint.

The Pirates offense took a break in the fourth inning but would add on in the fifth with a Reynolds single knocking in Oneil Cruz, who had doubled for a 4-0 lead.

Robert Stephenson came on for the seventh inning after Keller left with a 4-0 lead. He promptly struck out the first two batters. Each on five pitches after starting out both counts down 2-0. He’d then go down 2-0 on James McCann, but McCann was able to single to left field bringing up Brandon Nimmo who connected on a 3-1 fastball to center field for a two-run homerun to cut the lead in half. That would be all for Stephenson with Manny Banuelos coming in to replace him.

Banuelos has gotten back on track, after giving up four runs to the Cincinnati Reds back on August 21st, by throwing 7.2 innings with only one unearned run allowed. On Tuesday night he kept it up with throwing another 1.1 scoreless innings. Over that time — including Tuesday evening — he’s only struck out three batters, but also only given up three hits along with one walk.

With a 4-2 lead going into the bottom of the eighth, the offense wanted to add a little more insurance. Ke’Bryan Hayes lead things off with a single and then a steal of second, his 15th stolen base of the season on 19 tries. Hayes then moved to third on a Newman single with Newman also moving up to 2B on the throw. After a Suwinski strike out Hayes was able to score on a wild pitch to Chavis that bounced off the catcher and almost back to the mound with Newman moving to third. Chavis ended up striking out, but Jason Delay wouldn’t leave the runner stranded by singling to left field and increasing the lead back to four runs.

That would bring Oneil Cruz up to bat with two outs and a runner on first base. In a 3-2 count Cruz connected on a Curveball on the inside corner with another patented “That’s either a double or a lineout” swing turned home run. The ball left the bat at 113.4 MPH (per Baseball Savant) and cleared the Clemente Wall bleachers on a line for a two-run homerun and an 8-2 lead.

Wil Crowe was tabbed for the ninth and made quick work of the first two batters setting them down on five pitches total. Crowe then ran into some trouble unable to finish off the next two batters and would walk them for two on and two out before getting Nimmo to ground out on the first pitch he saw.

Another losing streak ended, and Mitch Keller matches his career high with his 5th victory. The five wins matches Wil Crowe and Dillon Peters for the team lead while also giving him his team leading 4th victory as a starter.

Mets @ Pirates

Game One Time: 12:35 PM EST

Pirates Starters: Duane Underwood Jr. (2-8, 6.12)

Mets Starters: Chris Bassitt (12-7, 3.32)

Underwood Notes: This will be Duane Underwood Jr.’s first career start in a Pirates uniform and his first MLB start since 2018. He will be pitching on two days rest after pitching on back-to-back days, so he is unlikely to go very deep into the game, even if efficient. The Pirates can’t call up another pitcher so I’d say it’s an interesting choice going bullpen game for the first of two. Bryse Wilson and Johan Oviedo were originally mentioned for the two starters, so one may piggyback off of Underwood.

Game Two Time: 6:35 PM EST

Pirates Starters: Johan Oviedo (2-1, 2.86)

Mets Starters: Jacob deGrom (4-1, 1.98)

GAME ONE LINEUPS:

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UPDATE: Pirates make two waiver claims today. Game two lineups will be posted once they are available. Pirates lost game one 5-1. If you somehow missed it, Josh VanMeter is gone.

GAME TWO LINEUPS:

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Mets

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ironmike56

The McNeil first pitch double to left against the shift was classic. Choked up 5 inches off end of bat and drove it down the third base line. Put Walk in the mood to count up all the opposite field hits of the Mets(8?) while not disguising his contempt for the approach of the Pirate hitters.

Wilbur Miller

This DH is turning into quite a Showcase for Cheringtoon’s pitching acquisitions. Failures on Parade.

TNBucs

Is it just me or does it seem like there’s been a pattern of Ben acquiring a pitcher, saying something like “our staff sees some things where we think we can help him get better”, they work with the pitcher, and the pitcher seems to do worse than he did before we acquired him?

I liked the acquisitions of Oviedo and Holderman and a few others, but I’m starting to roll my eyes when I hear “we can help them get better”. Closer to the truth is that we can give them an opportunity, and maybe things will click.

jon6er

Oviedo’s stuff looks great, control not so much.

Wilbur Miller

Which is why the Cards decided he couldn’t start. But Cheringtoon knows better, as we know from the fact that they always contend an he always finishes last.

chappy

Last night was fun, tonight not so much.

b mcferren

#ExtendCantina

bucsws2014

What’s a good movie to stream for a couple hours?

Wilbur Miller

Not sure Oviedo is going to have much long-term success without throwing a strike now and then.

Wilbur Miller

Or maybe not short-term, either.

jon6er

looks like only a one-hitter for DeGrom.

jon6er

two-hitter, lol.

b mcferren

swings on the first pitch…

b mcferren

who is the best player from Cuba to ever play for our team?

hoffmark83

Ding Dong VanMeter is gone!

RAS TN

Pirates Claim Zack Collins and Junior Fernández Off Waivers…I knew BC wouldn’t miss out on all the DFAing that’s been happening recently. He is like a kid in a candy store…Appears they are going to Indy so why bother and Collins is out of options…so again why bother???

AdministrativeSky236

He’s got pedigree, who knows maybe he will find something

Wilbur Miller

Yeah, but if you have five catchers and they all hit .060, then your catcher is batting .300!

docdon385

Pretty sure you’re gonna need to recheck that math unless some genius has come up with another analytic to just confuse everyone again.

Wilbur Miller

It´s Mendoza Math. Pirates´ FO uses it exclusively.

RAS TN

I’m guessing he needs to go DFA anonymous and needs to stay there until he is cured…

john_fluharty

Fill in some gaps created by pending call-ups?

1979andCounting

This game felt just like dozens of others, including the Blue Jays sweep. We held very good offenses to 4 runs each game (Jays) and 5 today. But we can’t hit our way out of a paper bag and lose all 4 with a whimper.

RAS TN

That’s a wet paper bag…

robertkasperski

Nice 2 innings by Yajure.

1979andCounting

Bassist got $8.8 M for ’22. With an option for a whopping $19 M in ’23!! That’s one of the strangest options I’ve ever seen! If the Mets don’t exercise it, he’d be FA Ben.

TNBucs

BR lists it as a mutual option, and it’s unlikely both sides would exercise their end. Bassitt will likely want to sign a multi-year deal, though it would seem likely that multi-year deal would be with the Mets since things have worked out so well for both sides. But yes, he’d be a good signing. I’d also be interested in Walker, if the Mets don’t re-sign him.

1979andCounting

I’d let Wilson, Stout, Yajure to finish game 1. Gotta cover 5 innings.

AdministrativeSky236

Im down to let yajure eat some innings and hopefully learn along the way

robertkasperski

Yajure is in!!

robertkasperski

Fairly efficient 8th!

Catch_22

Hayes and Newman getting squeezed by the kids. With the open 40 spot, it’s probably time to call up Bae and send down Marcano.

robertkasperski

Just realized no posts from Wilbur. Someone needs to do a wellness check as he may have had a medical emergency upon hearing the JVM news. May be wildly celebrating at a Delia’s and inhaling way to many Tamales  😀 

Last edited 27 days ago by robertkasperski
Wilbur Miller

I wish.

Been in transit. In Spain now.

AdministrativeSky236

Where’s the final destination? Enjoy!

john_fluharty

Getting as far away from the Pirates as you can?

Wilbur Miller

Yeah, FCL is done and BRD is except for this week´s road games. So I´ll get as much baseball here as I would following the clown show.

robertkasperski

Is the rain falling mostly on the plain? 🙂 At least we know that you are ok. Safe travels!  😀 

Last edited 27 days ago by robertkasperski
1979andCounting

So Chavis is now our only first baseman. Guessing Gamel is backup.

1979andCounting

Newman could handle 1B too imo.

robertkasperski

Who is going to be thw whipping boy now that JVM is………gasp……gone???

docdon385

I have some problems with the notion JVM was picked on or was a “whipping boy.” Fans were just pointing out the glaringly obvious facts that BC finally admitted today. Other players who have no future with the Pirates and are just taking up space that could be used to evaluate and develop some of the young guys also should go sooner rather than later.

Allen, Gamel and even Newman (who is not a bad player but is, well, Newman and always will be) are in that category. Maybe keep Newman to possibly try to trade him during the off season but neither of the other two should be on the current roster.

Wilbur Miller

I felt kinda sorry for VM. I´m sure he was trying, but he had no business on a ML roster and it turned into a spectacle because Cheringtoon was so obviously not basing his decisions on baseball. The ¨whipping boys¨ are Hodge ´n Podge. They´re the ones who aren´t trying.

Last edited 27 days ago by Wilbur Miller
Cobra

Greg Allen

robertkasperski

And you got Allen’s attention and he leads off the 7th with a double and scores on Heineman’s single
Then the reverse jinx wears off in the 8th and Allen strikes out. The whipping is on!

Last edited 27 days ago by robertkasperski
1979andCounting

LOL, the camera angle showed Joey Cora dashing across the screen pointing to the ball in LF! Funny moment…..and so glad I don’t have to watch him on a daily basis!

1979andCounting

Altoona is in Erie, why not have Endy drive to the Burgh last night and be our 29th man today. There’s no one more deserving…….give him the experience and maybe even an AB.

PirateRican21

it may not matter, but then again, why burn an option.

1979andCounting

Idk if a DH extra man even burns an option……good point though. They get called up for one day and go back down the next day. Someone here might know?

john_fluharty

Options are probably less of a concern than his potential super two status

robertkasperski

Last edited 27 days ago by robertkasperski
AdministrativeSky236

Wait so jvm finally gone?

AdministrativeSky236

This calls for celebration

1979andCounting

Omg JVM! Waiting for John or Wilber to post separate article!! Should be one of the more popular articles of the year!!

joebaseball

yes they can. DFA Allen, what is he doing still on the roster?

docdon385

They could if they wanted to. There are several “caps” sitting in the Pirate dugout who are serving no useful purpose other than to take up space and could easily be removed if the Pirates were interested in having Endy or any other young player start their major league development. No need to list names, you know who they are.

robertkasperski

Altoona finishes 9/18 and Indy on 9/28. After 9/18 I am guessing that some guys from AA will move to AAA to finish and between both teams there will be a couple of guys who get a couple of games with the Bucs in reward for their seasons. That is when there will be some guys bumped from the 40 man and give them a chance to start looking for a home for 2023 before this season is over and give some rookies a taste of the show.

john_fluharty

I’m guessing Wilson will follow Underwood. We may need to score a lot of runs to have a chance to win

Catch_22

The Oneil Cruz Show! My God is he an unreal talent. If he taps into 3/4 of his ceiling, he’ll be a top 3 player in the league.

Yes guys, he belongs up here and doesn’t need to learn hitting in AAA

bscat

What possibly explains Cruz batting leadoff? Let’s get some “ducks on the pond” when he comes to the plate.

skliesen

He’s on the Bonds and Cutch plan. He’s going to be a middle of the order bat soon enough.

Catch_22

Love him batting 1st.

AdministrativeSky236

Get him the most ABs as possible

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