Bryan Reynolds Has Requested a Trade From the Pirates

Pittsburgh Pirates outfielder Bryan Reynolds has requested a trade from the team. The report was broken by Jason Mackey and Robert Murray, and quickly confirmed by more national reporters.

Jon Heyman reported that extension negotiations between the two sides reached an impasse, which led to Reynolds requesting a trade.

The MLB Winter Meetings are approaching this week, and you can imagine Reynolds will now be a massive subject of rumors, and might even be traded.

The Pirates don’t have to trade Reynolds. Heyman reports that he hears the trade request has “no bearing” on the Pirates plans. Jason Mackey followed with a statement from the team.

It wouldn’t be ideal to keep a player on the team who doesn’t want to be around. I doubt Reynolds would perform to his best. While the Pirates don’t need to do anything, this news makes it increasingly likely that Reynolds will be traded this offseason.

Reynolds is currently under team control for three more seasons, and under contract for the 2023 season. The Pirates took criticism last offseason for going to arbitration with him over a difference of $650,000 (Reynolds filed for $4.9 million and the team countered with $4.25 million). The Pirates ended up signing him to a two-year deal, paying him $6.75 million each season.

The Pirates aren’t expected to win in 2023, and most of the players they’ve been connected to are veterans. The 2023 season looks like a building year, where the Pirates are likely to be sellers at the deadline.

At that point, Reynolds has two years left on a team that hopefully will be in position to add with the intention of contending heading into 2024.

Pirates fans would probably argue that the team should build around Reynolds. The Pirates, however, haven’t expressed urgency on this matter. I don’t know what would change between now and then, other than removing a year of control. Perhaps the Pirates hope that Reynolds has a change of heart and remains in Pittsburgh through 2025.

Or, maybe this is all well-timed leverage to make Reynolds the biggest name on the trade block heading into the winter meetings.

I guess we’ll have to see how it plays out. We’ll keep you updated if anything else comes from this situation.

UPDATE: Jon Heyman notes that the Pirates made Reynolds an offer that was the richest in team history

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AdministrativeSky236

Round table article proposal: each person gets a team likely to be in on reynolds and uses BTV to create a proposal. Would be a fun read to see guys play GM negotiating with the yanks, dodgers, phils, etc and see which package is liked the most

AdministrativeSky236

Oh no lol! Suggestion revoked then

SouthernBuc

In the world of self promotion, I actually suggested this prior to the Reynolds news breaking in response to Jeff’s article ‘a refreshing change of pace’. Now, if I could see the future for something positive.

Cobra

Paging Ogden Nutting. Your son is at it again. Cleanup in aisle 4

https://twitter.com/dejan_kovacevic/status/1187129651107454976?s=46&t=vX_Su5Pk_yTZbv8eAFVyXQ

TNBucs

Kovacevic’s article on this is free if you want to read his full take. Most of his blame, correctly, is on Nutting. But he’s finally acknowledging that Williams, Cherington, and Shelton don’t seem to care much about winning either.

Also, there was this ominous quote:

Might’ve been a talk I’m told Reynolds recently had with a former Pittsburgh player who reacted incredulously when Reynolds described being happy here.”

emjayinTN

And the plot thickens, or sickens for loyal Pirate fans. Any verification on that “talk . . . . with a former Pittsburgh player”?

Reynolds is not some gullible dolt – he knows where he is at, who he is playing for, and what the MLB and MLBPA think about the Pirates. I just hope playing it out in the press brings more and more negative pressure on Nutting and his group of yes-men.

TNBucs

Often I don’t like when players or their agents go public about wanting to be traded as I think it makes the player look bad. In this case, Reynolds (or his agents) is doing us a favor by reminding everyone that Nutting is not going to spend at market rates and has no business running a professional sports team.

Nutting is like an old man who refuses to buy something because he remembers when you could buy the same thing for a fraction of the price 25 years ago.

Wilbur Miller

The Pirates since BC came along have been entirely made up of young guys just getting established and veterans just hanging on. Nobody cares what the veterans think because they’re not going to be around long anyway.

The younger guys, or at least the ones who start experiencing some success (nobody cares whether Beau Sulser wants to stay in Pgh), are all taken up with getting established in the majors and being part of a team that hopes (or at least the players do) to turn things around. So they’re naturally going to be optimistic and excited about the idea of helping to turn a foundering franchise around.

But at some point it’s going to hit home that nobody above the player level gives a s*** whether the team ever wins any more, and that in part means that the team is never going to pay a market price for an experienced player. Reynolds is at that stage now and probably just got a wakeup call.

Last edited 1 month ago by Wilbur Miller
TNBucs

Yeah, when Shelton says “my job is to keep things fun” and Cherington says “it’s not about winning…”, it’s hard to trust that anyone above the player level cares.

b mcferren

The real problem here is that the pirates did not trade Reynolds’s at peak value last offseason

AdministrativeSky236

Looks like youll get your wish this time around!

b mcferren

guy is a low energy loser

not one person here ever recognized him as a leader

sooner the better that he gets kicked out of town

b mcferren

worser than mercer…

JimEastTennessee

Have you ever tried a Snickers bar?

b mcferren

Vanderbuilt sucks

JimEastTennessee

Agreed, but maybe not in college baseball, your point is…? BTW, I went to UT and Butler.

TP

The Pirates aren’t expected to win in 2023, and most of the players they’ve been connected to are veterans. The 2023 season looks like a building year, where the Pirates are likely to be sellers at the deadline.
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That sounds familiar

TIm, do you just copy & paste that from previous articles and just change the year? 😎

PiratePrimate

.The Worst Organization in All of Sports strikes again!

RaisetheJollyRancherGirl

Honestly might as well trade Keller and Brubaker if Reynolds goes. Bednar too. That’s a lot of trade capital. According to Baseball Trade Values that’s enough to trade for Tatis Jr for example and in that scenario you likely trade Cruz, too.

capirate

We are missing a lot of information so it is hard to evaluate this situation. 1) How much is Reynolds asking for over what period of time, 2) how much are the Pirates offering over what period of time, 3) who leaked the information that Reynolds asked for a trade, 4) who started the negotiations?

If the Pirates started the negotiation, then of course Reynolds is going to listen/negotiate.

We only know that the Pirates offered Reynolds over $70 million – it could be $80 million over 8 years for all we know.

In the last couple of years the Pirates have never seemed all that interested in signing Reynolds long-term (similar to Neil Walker). My guess is they low-balled him at least some.

For Reynolds sake, I hope they trade him this winter.

ravidesai1984

This sounds like the work of his agent Scott Boras. He loves to leak stuff and negotiate through the media.

Wilbur Miller

His agent is CAA Sports.

ravidesai1984

My bad I thought I saw someone that said it was Boras. But my point stands his agent is trying to negotiate in the media. I’m not saying he’s wrong to do so but it’s a tactic that agents use with most teams.

jfwolfgang

If he is traded, we need to start with a ready (or near ready) top pitching prospect. Here are Fan Graphics’ top 40 with MLB’s rating as well and the MLB Trade Value for each and what level they played last year:
Last
Pitcher Team Fan MLB Value Year

Perez Mia 2 9 68.2 AA
Rodriguez Balt 7 4 51.3 AAA
Painter Phila 11 24 45.1 AA
Espino Clev 13 15 52.5 AA
Abel Phila 20 54 26.8 AA
Harrison S F 21 21 39.2 AA
Plaadt Ariz 25 90 22.6 AAA
Cavalli Wash 26 55 27.4 MLB
Bradley Rays 28 20 29.6 AAA
Leiter Tex 29 45 24.8 AAA
Miller L A D 40 26 30.9 AAA

Since MLB-TV gives Reynolds a value of 59.9, we might be able to get about 65 for him. Probably out of the running for Perez, but close on a straight up deal.

I would like to throw in Bednar and get both Painter & Abel from the Phillies, or maybe a deal with Cleveland or the Dodgers.

steve_zielinski

I like Perez in Miami’s system. The organization currently lacks a #1 or #2 starter. Perez would fill that spot. The BTV posts addressing the Reyonlds situation. Many want to trade a catcher to the Pirates for Reyonlds. Do some research. The Pirates won’t trade their best player to fill a position that is an organizational strength.

PirateRican21

I like Harrison from the Giants a lefty and Miller from the Dodgers a righty. Could see either team making a trade for him unless one of them signs Judge.

AdministrativeSky236

Dodgers could give us two lower top 100 prospects in AAA, they might be my favorite trade partner rn

jfwolfgang

Whoever misses on Judge would be likely, but the Yankees have no one to trade, would need a three-team trade with them.

Wilbur Miller

No doubt the Pirates will play up the biggest-in-team-history angle, but that’s BS. Says more about the team’s cheapo history than it does about Reynolds. He’s got two more years of service than Hayes had. The Pirates were buying out a couple of low-salary years from Hayes. Reynolds is past that. His offer should have been dramatically larger than Hayes’ deal.

The fact is, the Pirates haven’t given out a substantial, market-value deal since Jason Kendall. Everything has to be a big bargain. It was looking for a bit like things might change, but between this and missing out on Gibson, I’m not expecting them to. They’re just going to continue looking exclusively for bottom-of-the-market deals.

PiratePrimate

Gibson, Reynolds and who knows how many other established MLB players have no desire to perform for an owner like Nickles. The word’s been out for years. The players union and MLB commisioners have complained about Nickles’ classless, thieving ways. This is the obvious outcome.

clemo83

Spot on Wilbur. “Largest contract in team history” is very likely nowhere near Reynolds value. Clever propaganda effort, but I don’t think its fooling anyone.

Last edited 1 month ago by clemo83
EightMenOut

Not disagreeing, but Boras is Reynolds agent, so would be nice to know what he was asking.

Wilbur Miller

According to bbref, his agent is CAA Sports.

RaisetheJollyRancherGirl

I honestly think 6 years/$95ish should have been the offer. It’s not that far off and doesn’t feel like an albatross.

PiratePrimate

That’s probably close to what was offered and it’s also why he wants to be moved.

RaisetheJollyRancherGirl

Here’s a 3 way trade guess

Screenshot 2022-12-03 at 17-44-17 Blue Jays & Cardinals & Pirates » Baseball Trade Values.png
robertkasperski

I go back to my belief that Reynolds may well wish to hit FA after 2025. Unless the Pirates wish to offer what Reynolds believes his FA value to, I don’t think Reynolds wants to pass up his chance at his best contract he will ever have. If this is the case, he will be traded the moment they get that offer that they can’t refuse.

redwards60

Who can blame him? Players like the money, but they also want to feel like they have a chance to compete for a championship. As long as BN is the owner, Reynolds knows the obvious – there is nearly zero chance of the Pirates winning the division, let alone a world series championship. When was the last time a team with a payroll under $50m won a world series?

If the Pirates are smart – which they obviously aren’t – they would sit back and let teams out bid each other for Reynolds and use the opportunity to maximize the return for him. He should net at least one top 50-100 prospect, plus 1-2 other pieces. Instead of settling for “major league ready” spare parts, they need to focus on 2-3 high ceiling prospects.

This team is losing 100 games in 2023 whether they have Reynolds or not…

Last edited 1 month ago by redwards60
MB21

If BN was smart, he would have intervened in the negotiations and asked what it would take to get a deal done. Most of the time the return for good to star level players never pans out to be of equal or better value. I doubt in this case that, at 27 and in his prime, there would be addition by subtraction.

In fact, if he was smart, it might not be too late to intervene.

mikeschalke

Trade his ass! He’s the best player on this forsaken team. So what, that’s like being the tallest midget. I mean short person.

ravidesai1984

I see this as more his agent trying to get an advantage on extension talks. Reynolds may be unhappy but if he intentionally tanks he just costs himself money via arbitration.

robertkasperski

And also hurts his value heading into FA.

pdarno00

Say what you want about the FO & they’re cheap, but makes Reynolds look like the bad guy. Those of you saying he wants paid & wants to win doesn’t make sense. If the Pirates are a joke, then why would he even be having contact negotiations? If this offer was 6 years & north of 80 million I don’t blame the Pirates one bit. Can he get more in free agency? Maybe…3 years from now. It’s debatable if he would be a part of the next contending team. I am a big Reynolds fan but say good riddance if he does not want to be here.

TNBucs

He’ll likely earn at least $30MM the next three years, so essentially they were offering him less than $50MM to buy out three FA years. With the salaries being handed out so far this offseason, it’s no wonder he’d turn that down.

AdministrativeSky236

Paging BnP, would love to see your take here.

Also, reports that they offered him more than hayes got… which isnt saying a whole lot

piratemike

In the grand scheme of things does it really matter whether Reynolds is on the team or not?
Did the Pirates go out and get a quality 1b? No, they signed two aging 1b-DH short term players who, although better than what they had last season, isn’t that great of an upgrade and anybody else they may bring in are going to be along that same line and anyway if those players do put together a decent year. they will most likely be traded.
Reynolds gives the Pirates a NAME player that they can try to ligitimize this team with but how much better is this team with him? They will still lose around 90 games.
There is some hope with Cruz, Hayes and future prospects but they take time to become true MLB players if they succeed and Reynolds will be gone by then.
So, it doesn’t matter if he stays or goes but knowing the history of the Pirates and Cherington in making trades if they do trade him don’t look for any great results.

Y2JGQ2

2023 isnt relevant. 2024 and 25 are. his not being on the team as all these youngsters become stars leaves a gaping holenin the outfield. so yeah, it matters a lot considering our window is 2024-2026 that has always been the plan. trading his throws the plan in the shitter. i dont trade him right now unless we get a top 50 prospect outfielder equal to reynolds plus a lefty starting pitching prospect top 100. thats the only way we potentially get help for our window. you do NOTHING right now that hurts that window.

buccobrach2

Come on guys, how can you blame the guy, I’d make it public too. All he is doing is saying he wants to WIN#1 and he deserves to get paid #2 . The pirates are a joke. The only way this team is ever going to win is if all their prospects hit. How often does that really happen, then on top of that teams like the dodgers, Yankees, braves, stros, cards,Sox,jays have to have bad luck/ injuries on the guys they are signing for major league money. Anybody who doesn’t see Reynolds point of view is ridiculous, I don’t care if he or whomever loves pittsburgh and the fans, the organization right now is not set up to win. We are hoping for a winner and it isn’t happening until they start to spend some real money.

MB21

I might agree with this take if Reynolds had not been in negotiations for an extension. Evidently he was willing to consider staying. I just don’t like negotiating or complaining in public. Maybe it’s because I’m getting old (or old-fashioned.)

b mcferren

JAGOFF

I will be booing this rotten tomato

agent00

JimEastTennessee

Danatural08

My thought is that the FO might already have a soft agreement in place & put this out in advance of announcing the move to soften public & teammate backlash.

I dont want the to trade him, but think of Mia & NyY as most likely destinations.

Scam likely

Reynolds destination 1yankee
2 dodgers
3miami
4phillies

RaisetheJollyRancherGirl

What top 20 prospects could even be on the table for a guy like Reynolds? It’d have to be teams who think they could compete in ’23. Jackson Churio (CF) for Milwaukee’s #5 but had a terrible short stretch in AA after crushing A ball. Baltimore isn’t trading either of their top two guys for Reynolds. They’re just not a surefire competitor yet. Could Jordan Walker from the Cards work? Andrew Painter from the Phils? SP Espino from the Guardians?

EightMenOut

Not ideal. The problem with trading Reynolds for prospects is that you are not going to get really good MLB ready prospects, or else why would a team trade them? You basically have to go after prospects who are entering A+ or AA ball in 2023, if you want to get top quality prospects. And that doesn’t help 2023 and maybe not 2024. We can’t keep doing that.

If the Pirates are serious about contending then you trade Reynolds for just one good young MLB pitcher, maybe also get a reliever in the trade. The Dodgers seem to have surplus of pitchers, so a trade with them could really add to the starting rotation for the next few years.

Last edited 1 month ago by EightMenOut
TNBucs

Yeah, it seems that stars for prospects almost always ends up favoring the team getting the star. The Yelich trade is the best example but there are others including some past Pirates trades. So, I agree that at least part of the return has to be someone who has shown the ability to make it in the majors and we can always use more pitching.

docdon385

Can’t blame Reynolds for wanting out of this organization, but if they’re at an impasse over money meet again and work it out. Knowing which side made this public might tell a lot. If it was Reynold’s agent, it could be a negotiating ploy but if it was the Pirates it’s likely an effort to make him look bad to justify a trade. Regardless suggesting Reynolds wouldn’t play hard if he stays is just plain silly. He’ll play the same way he always has because that’s who he is.

piratemike

He only hurts himself if he plays poorly on purpose.

skliesen

Personally don’t think Pirates should extend him. Never have. Maybe I’m too scarred from watching how Cutch turned into Clark Kent after being Superman. I have a bad feeling Reynolds is on the same career path.

As for how this affects Pirates plans, I think it may lower their threshold of what’s required to be given up by another team to acquire him. I doubt the Pirates have any interest in keeping a sour apple in a veteran leadership position.

As such, I’ll be shocked if he isn’t dealt next week.

leefieux

If I was a betting man, .I’d put money on Reynolds being in our opening day lineup. Whether he gets his new contract or not.

emjayinTN

You are a wise man, and thanks Bryan for calling out the Pirates publicly. We all want this franchise to act more responsibly with stocking this club with quality players. Excluding the pandemic season of 2020 he has played about 90% of the games and posted an average of 4.1 fWAR/year in the other 3 years. In the last 2 years he averaged 4.5 fWAR. Trading him would be absolutely stupid.

Pay the man his money. We offered 6/$80 and he is worth at least 6/$108. The Pirates need to post that number as their BAFO for an extension. It’s important for the other players to know the Pirates are willing to pay for talent.

piratemike

He already is under contract, so he doesn’t have a choice.

EightMenOut

I will take the other side of that bet!

Catch_22

Kyle Gibson to the O’s

skliesen

Trade Reynolds and use money to sign Sean Manaea. Works for me.

Trade Reynolds and pocket money. Doesn’t work for me. But we all know which outcome is more likely to happen.

RAS TN

Heyman reports that he hears the trade request has “no bearing” on the Pirates plans. One of the only teams to actually have a plan to lose…This will just make it much easier…

So what’s the over and under for Pirate’s losses for 2023… 110 115???

Wonder if Santana is having 2nd thoughts???

Y2JGQ2

we lost 100 putting the worst team out there possible and now we have a full season of a maturing cruz and castro and suwinski and some young pitchers…. if you dont think we get ten games better this year, you just dont understand anything about organically growing talent in a small market. we have one of if not the best prospect talent in the upper minors in the entire major leagues including two top 3 picks, Bae, Rodriguez, and puegero plus burrows and priester. all you fools bitching dont see the amount of ripe talent we are about to unleash. all we need to do is stay healthy and allow the kids to play

RAS TN

Get a grip sport I have forgotten more baseball than you will ever know…

BTW I have seen ripe talent and it was in a garbage dump…

postal911

Santana is here because the Pirates offered up way more money then the next team. No other reason.

Wilbur Miller

Santana is in Pgh because nobody else wanted him as a regular. No other reason.

mikeschalke

Trust me Santana is probably happy someone gave him a contract.

Scam likely

What else could the pirates say, he gone ,turn out lights ,let’s go home.

skliesen

110…115. I don’t think you comprehend how difficult it is to be that bad.

Losing a 3.5 WAR player off of a 100 loss team isn’t near enough of a setback to be that bad.

Y2JGQ2

especially with as many young studs expexted to get better

ravidesai1984

If they signed 9 Josh VanMeter clones and made them the starting lineup there would still be a chance that they wouldn’t be that bad.

Catch_22

This is precisely why the Pirates should avoid super 2.

RAS TN

I do not blame him at all, just tired of being part of a clown show…

postal911

Exactly. Cruz and his agent should be trying to get out of town also. This organization will always be a joke as long as Nutting owns the team.

Y2JGQ2

whats the point of posting this nonsense

Catch_22

Offer was for 6/80

AdministrativeSky236

Oof is this confirmed? He has a right to want to leave that

Bucs'N'Pucks (Jeff Reed)

Was it? Then yeah, that’s brutal. 5 for $80M or 6 for $100M would make sense.

TNBucs

If that’s the offer, I think my reaction would have been the same as Reynolds’. Those last three years should have been worth about $80MM on their own and then add another ~$30MM for the next three years and then they might be in the ballpark. Perhaps even 6/100. But 6/80?

RaisetheJollyRancherGirl

6/$95 was what I had been thinking

TNBucs

Yes, something in the $95-$105MM neighborhood seems like a fair deal for both sides.

postal911

It’s the Pirates way to low ball good players, then in a weird twist every off season they overpay for some washed up vet.

EightMenOut

If Reynolds is a 3 WAR player, and WARs run about 8 million per year, then Reynolds could want 24 million a year. but….of course the next 3 years he can’t get that due to being under contract for 6.5 million this year, and then two years of arbitration. 6/80, would be something like 6.5, 9.5, 14, 15, 15, 20. That would be a bit of a low ball, but not terribly low if it was guaranteed and took out the 3 cheap years coming up. But still too low.

Now to completely guess….
I would guess Reynolds camp is probably thinking more like 6.5, 14.5, 20, 25, 27, 27 would be fair, which would be 6/120.

I would have to side with Reynolds if that was the case. Sure the Pirates could say 3/79 isn’t worth it the last three years, but c’mon, you can’t have cheap years of control and then not expect a bit of an overpay to sign someone good for long term.

Anthony

So two years arb, four years FA?

SouthernBuc

IMO, that should stall any negotiation. I am guessing at his current performance his last 2 years of arb would beat that ACV, let alone what he would get in free agency. I hope that 6/80 is not accurate

RaisetheJollyRancherGirl

Where’d you see that?

Catch_22

93.7 the fan

Danatural08

If true, that seems like a low ball offer. Surprised theyd go 6 years tho

tom2125

I’m good with trading Reynolds. He doesn’t line up well with the timeline the Pirates have set themselves up with.

leefieux

We have a valid timeline? Is it made from wings and prayers?

tom2125

I said the Pirates timeline, not the timeline for the pirates like they actually have done this before like other teams. The Pirates won’t compete next year and it’s not looking great in 2024 either. So what’s the point of hanging on to Reynolds?

Y2JGQ2

why would it not look good for 2024. every one of our top prospects except johnson will be either in the big leagues or tradable for actual major league talent to fill any holes we have plus wed have basically our whole team signed or playing at neaR league minimum

ArkyWags

Ahhh the old “I broke up with her, she didn’t break up with me,” canard.

tom2125

What are you talking about? I guess that’s a boomer line? I have been fine trading Reynolds for the last year or two. Seems like the Pirates are building for a potential winning team in 2025, so why hang on to a player who won’t be her for that potential run?

Y2JGQ2

we need him to win in 2025. the players wed get would just push the timeline back even further, reynolds is key to break .500 in 2024 and get to the playoffs in 2025. our outfield is a weakspot, we cant realistically fill that offensive hole with mitchell and swaggerty…. no chance in hell

ArkyWags

The “he doesn’t line up well with their timeline,” lie where fans rationalize why he doesn’t fit. That’s what I mean. He could have. But this management team decided to start all the way at the bottom and then lowballed him with the offer to say “hey, we tried.” When we all know they really didn’t.

tom2125

I don’t think you get where I’m coming from. I could care less if they extended Reynolds. He is already in his prime and not getting younger.
Especially for an outfielder who isn’t consistent at the plate in a year to year basis. People act like he is like Cutch in his prime. B rey is a good everyday player. Nothing more. He is not in your top 3 best players on a championship team.

Y2JGQ2

we arent ever going to be a championship team…. he would be a top 3 hitter on a couple wild card teams

ArkyWags

Bryan Reynolds is 11th among OF in fWAR since he debuted in 2019. He’s not Cutch in his prime, but he’s a damn good player and it’s highly unlikely that whoever they get in return is as good as him. Or close.

tom2125

I looked up his fwar real quick… way to cherry pick that timeline lmao.

2019- 3.4
2020- 0.1
2021- 6.1
2022- 2.9

Good player for sure. Let’s not act like he is in the elite tier of outfielders.

ArkyWags

It’s not cherry picked, that’s when Reynolds came up to the big leagues. Looks like you didn’t look hard enough at Fangraphs to figure that part out.
The downside of their offer (again, I’m not saying they should have signed him long term), is that it was such a lowball offer, he requested a trade.

Y2JGQ2

that didnt work out too well for jack and freddy did it? sometimes its best to stay withnwhere you are a big fish in a small pond.

tom2125

Like I said before, good player. Glad we can agree on that. We can both agree that he might help the Pirates reach the playoffs in 1 of the next 3 years… maybe. Again, I’m not paying premium money for a good player in a crap team. Makes zero sense.

Anthony

To be successful, this team needs to allocate resources appropriately. Paying market value on a contract extension does not make sense.

I like BR, and I think he should be extended. But I agree, it HAS to be at a discount to market value. Pay market value for complementary pieces when you need them.

leefieux

I know better. Had lots go both ways.

Wilbur Miller

Well, the offseason turned bad in a hurry. The cheap owner casts a long shadow. Nuttin just isn’t willing to operate on a major league level.

Last edited 1 month ago by Wilbur Miller
Bucs'N'Pucks (Jeff Reed)

This off-season started off well!!!

Cobra

“The Pirates took criticism last offseason for going to arbitration with him over a difference of $650,000”

Not the best way to make sure the guy feels like a building block for a future winner. Aaron judge will end up making that amount per home game. And this news comes the same exact day we are outbid by the *orioles* on a *one year* deal for Gibson.

Nutting to see here

We will always be a Mickey Mouse organization while that guy is owner

Last edited 1 month ago by Cobra
AdministrativeSky236

Pretty sure they did something similar with cole while he was here

CTBucco

That was $10k when Cole was in his first three years and getting league min essentially. I think the maybe told him he was going to get an extra $10k then reneged on it or something else that’s beyond stupid.

leefieux

‘I doubt Reynolds would perform to his best.’

I disagree. There have been many players across many sports who actually end up having very good years. It goes against the grain for an athlete of his ilk to ‘tank it’ just because he isn’t happy,

Bucs'N'Pucks (Jeff Reed)

It’d still be in Reynolds best interest to perform, as it’d affect future earnings and contract negotiations

john_fluharty

He has friends on this team even if he doesn’t want to be a member of the organization itself. If he dogs it he would damage some of those friendships as well as damaging his reputation. If he sticks around he’ll play hard and say all the right things to the press, with the possible criticism of the front office thrown in here and there.

Last edited 1 month ago by john_fluharty
MB21

I can’t say I blame him with the trash of a team that’s been on the field the last three years. I am a little disappointed about his making this public. I have wanted out of a job before but it’s not exactly classy to publicize it – not just in regard to management but also to teammates. Vultures are circling. Who knows what bloodletting will take place now?

AdministrativeSky236

This makes me sad

1979andCounting

Good for BRey! It’s about time someone embarrasses the sh*t out of BC and mostly BN. Cutch left quietly, as did Neil Walker, Morton and Cole. And Marte and Musgrove. No one spoke up about Bob’s cheapness. Cole was in a different stratosphere of course.

tom2125

Walker was traded… and still wanted to be a pirate.

Marte and Cutch both got extensions before their trades.

I don’t get how that correlates with Reynolds?

PirateRican21

Trading Reynolds made sense last off season, ow it seems like a huge step backwards after taking tiny little baby steps forward. By the way, not a good look for him to take such stance if he is indeed.

dvannice

Making the request public just decreased the return the Pirates will get. Get ready for a bunch of lowball offers.

Y2JGQ2

it actually probably makes it less likely he’ll be traded. would be easier to trade him if they locked him.up to a reasonable contract. noone is cutting trade vaLue if hes signed at 6-100. I’d tell him flat out…. you want traded, take the deal. if you dont, you will sit here 3 years

voteforpedro

It’s not the NBA. He doesn’t have much leverage.

bianco599

Reminds me of European football when someone puts in a transfer request. Everyone knows they want out but someone will pay the price for him. I just hope whatever that price is comes from a team with a top farm system and isn’t afraid to overpay.

JimEastTennessee

I never had a good feel about a long extension. Cash in the trade chip, but will it happen in July?

bianco599

Let the trade predictions begin. I’m interested in who everyone thinks the Bucs might get. And it looks like Kyle Gibson is going to the O’s.

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PirateRican21

here are some bad guesses;

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bianco599

Man that would be tough to choose from. Not that they are bad guesses but I am not sure what I would go with. Which one do you fancy?

PirateRican21

Love Harrison, but the Dodgers “offer” is better.

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