Pirates Receive the Last Competitive Balance Pick in 2023

MLB announced the order for the competitive balance picks in the 2023 draft and the Pittsburgh Pirates got the worst possible outcome. It was already decided before this year that they would pick after the second round (they will pick after the first round in 2024), but today it was announced that the Pirates will have the final competitive balance pick. There were six teams in the pool for the competitive balance round B, so it was possible to pick up to five spots earlier in the draft if they did better during the season (explanation at the bottom of the article), though that would have worked against them in every other round. The actual spot for the pick itself will be decided once the qualified free agents sign.

The link above has details about the free agents who will be the deciding factor in where this pick ends up. In the past it has been around the 70th-75th overall range. The Pirates are in the lottery for the top six picks that will take place next week. They will end up somewhere between the 1st pick overall and the ninth pick.

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leefieux

I see I got another downvote from Leuhr22. I feel like I have a stalker. Can I call the Dream Police for help? Who the bleep IS this guy and why has he targeted me?

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leefieux

Historially, one in six of these players will have at least an average career. (think Kevin Newman like or better). The rest will be bums. We just have to hope that we get one of the two that make it.

Take a look at:

2017. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Major_League_Baseball_draft
2016: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Major_League_Baseball_draft
2015: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Major_League_Baseball_draft

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battlingbucs

I thought I saw a report from Ethan that within the round the order was based upon previous season record from best to worst not a lottery.

battlingbucs

No I’m thinking the competitive balance rounds are flipped and go best to worst. It does seem to follow that order.

Round A
Mariners 90 wins
Rays 86
Brewers 86
Twins 78
Marlins 69
Tigers 66
Reds 62
As 60

Round B
Guardians 92 wins
Orioles 83
D backs 74
Rockies 68
Royals 65
Pirates 62

James_Robert5

“ If the whole point is competitive balance, why would you then reward the better team? ”

Some teams receive an extra pick -> competitive balance advantage

Assigning the team with the worst record the worst of the CB picks -> the tanking penalty

TNBucs

It makes some sense. Since all of these teams are deemed to have a competitive disadvantage, why not reward the ones who succeed despite that disadvantage?

Wilbur Miller

I think it has more to do with Manfred getting complaints from the larger markets about owners like Nutting just pocketing the revenue sharing money. Not because they want the Pirates to be competitive, but because they resent paying money into Nutting’s family trust fund. And Manfred has to worry about the union. The grievance against the Pirates is still pending.

TNBucs

Yes, for the draft in general. But for these extra competitive balance picks, I think ordering things from best to worst makes some sense.

ArkyWags

I’m all for smaller market teams that succeed in spite of their market yet a bonus. Because otherwise you’re rewarding both frugality and incompetence with poor teams getting higher picks all the time.

Scam likely

Yup, it would be mathematical improbablility for this to happen other wise.

RaisetheJollyRancherGirl

I bet they get the last comp B pick _and_ pick number 9 lol

Scam likely

1-1 feeling lucky.

ArkyWags

Lose for Crews! Let’s hope it works out!

Last edited 2 months ago by ArkyWags
James_Robert5

IMO he was the 3rd best of the SEC outfielders on the USA National College Team

ArkyWags

Behind Bradfield and Langford? They’re all quite close. I’d honestly be happy with any of them. Bradfield looks fun as hell. Same with Langford. But Crews has the cool tagline so that’s the tiebreaker.

James_Robert5

Yes they are all really good

The USA College Team was really fun to watch this summer

ArkyWags

Also a lot can change. One thing about this draft is it seems there’s more high ceiling college bats than before. Those three, Gonzalez, Wilson…all five of those guys look like potential top 10 picks right now.

James_Robert5

I agree

This guy didn’t make the team but should be an excellent pro

https://gopack.com/sports/baseball/roster/lujames-groover-iii/11912

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