The Pittsburgh Pirates Are Signing Andrew McCutchen

According to Jason Mackey, the Pittsburgh Pirates are bringing back Andrew McCutchen on a one-year deal. The Pirates haven’t announced anything, but seemingly have confirmed the news.

McCutchen is coming off a 2022 season with the Milwaukee Brewers where he had a .237/.316/.384 line in 580 plate appearances, worth an 0.3 fWAR. He was a 1.5 fWAR outfielder with the Phillies a year prior, with better walk and power numbers.

This signing fits a recurring theme of adding veteran leadership that takes the spotlight off the younger prospects who are emerging to the majors.

McCutchen does this in a huge way. He knows Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh knows him.

He knows what it’s like to arrive as a top prospect in Pittsburgh, with every Pirates fan watching his every at-bat, dreaming about the day when he could lead them to the playoffs with an MVP season.

He knows about doing that, as well.

McCutchen is far from the MVP and All-Star he was when the Pirates were last contenders. He’s still capable of putting up average starting numbers in the outfield, and might get a personal boost by returning to Pittsburgh. The veteran value here is huge, but this also fills a team need.

Earlier today, Anthony Murphy wrote about how the outfield picture still offers more questions than answers. The addition of McCutchen provides an answer, giving the Pirates a starter to pair with Bryan Reynolds — assuming the Pirates don’t trade Reynolds. That is an interesting pairing, as Reynolds was acquired for McCutchen prior to the 2018 season.

If the Pirates have Reynolds and McCutchen as starters, they could platoon Jack Suwinski and Connor Joe for the third spot. That could give them average production or better across the board at the three outfield spots.

This alignment would also make anything from Ji-Hwan Bae or any other prospect a bonus, rather than something the team is relying upon.

With one addition, this outfield now has depth in the proper place, obvious veteran leadership, and a clear draw for Pirates fans to watch the team in 2023.

UPDATE: According to Jason Mackey, the deal will be worth $5M 

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bianco599

I don’t care if all he does is sacrifice bunt and coach first base when not in the game. I’m pumped to have him back.

KirkV12

The internet is the internet, and people have different perspectives and priorities, but it’s kind of appalling to see anyone poo-pooing this signing…

He’s literally the greatest player to wear this uniform in 30 years. He was the beating heart of every winning season I’ve been alive to see. We lost nothing but money to get him (money that people are always complaining isn’t being spent enough), and it was a paltry $5MM at that. Yes, he is past his prime, and in theory, prospects could get ML experience instead… except all of those prospects had 2 wide-open OF spots ALL YEAR LAST YEAR in a 100-loss season, and none fully established themselves (Suwinski was closest, and has probably clinched a platoon spot). I don’t think he does anything to hurt our win column this year (though this year’s win column is pretty much besides the point, as our window of contention starts in ’24 at best). And if a prospect forces the issue, they will get their time on this team, don’t worry. If someone’s hitting .350 in AAA by mid-June, they’ll get the call. The only scenario where this blocks anyone or causes any mildly negative ripple effect is with an absolute fringe-prospect situation, where a guy like Cal Mitchell or Canaan Smith-Njigba is hitting .271 and could be considered worthy of a shot, debatably, and there isn’t immediate room for it.

And on the flip side, criticism of this signing blatantly dismissed the existence of human emotion and sentiment, as if this isn’t a game, as if story and narrative don’t matter, as if the marvelous human being that is Andrew McCutchen isn’t worth celebrating purely for the fact that he’s the man, and he’s our dude.

Best move they’ve made in years.

piratemike

Poo-Poo.

roberto

He’s our dude. Amen, brother.

esd4

Mitchell literally hit .339 in AAA last year, and now you’re saying that he doesn’t deserve an MLB spot because he didn’t “fully establish” himself. Doesn’t it kind of ring false to you to say on the one hand that a guy who tears the cover off the ball at AAA will definitely get a shot and on the other hand that the guy who did in fact tear the cover off the ball at AAA should have to go back to AAA?

KirkV12

Dude I love Cal Mitchell. And he got 212 ML ABs last year. I believe if he crushes spring training or continues that production in AAA to start the year, they’ll find a place for him in the ML lineup, despite the fact that he’s an awful fielder. But I think they gave him a fair shot and his production didn’t demand an opening day starting role for ‘23. If they DFAd him or traded him as a result of this signing, that would be upsetting. But I have no reason to believe that’ll happen, and I don’t think prioritizing his opportunities supersedes the value of bringing back Andrew McCutchen

esd4

Again, I think it’s pretty hypocritical to suggest that if he does well in AAA they’ll find a place for him in PIT while also saying that despite having done well in AAA he doesn’t deserve a place in PIT.

He was excellent in AAA last year as a 23-year-old, and then in the majors, he had an average K rate, a BB rate only about half a percentage point below average, hard-hit rate and average exit velo both well above-average. His bottom-line production wasn’t good, fair enough, but his peripherals were all solid. Moreover, after being demoted to AAA in August and then promoted again a month later in early September, he hit .267/.360/.373 over the final month of the season (112 wRC+).

How can a team that is ostensibly building through their farm system look at a 23-year-old who crushed AAA, held his own in MLB, and actually hit well down the stretch, and tell him he needs to go back to the minor leagues?

Truth be told, I don’t have high hopes for Mitchell. I think his ceiling is as an average corner outfield. But I don’t see how the Pirates as a team have any sort of reasonable future at all if, after fire-saling and tanking and accumulating prospects for three years, they are now going to deny opportunities to the prospects who actually perform well in the highest level of the minors.

KirkV12

Fair enough. I would like to see Cal get a roster spot, if not a starting spot out of the gate. I would prefer he get prioritized over Miguel Andujar. But if I were to second guess any of the OF veteran additions, I’d probably go with Connor Joe, who provides minimal feel good story, minimal upside, and cost a solid prospect to acquire. I also think the odds are high they trade Reynolds, whether we like it or not, so that would open another OF spot. And/or someone gets injured before opening day. There’s just a ton that could happen between now and then, and these things have a way of sorting themselves out. If we keep Reynolds and everyone is healthy AND everyone is performing well enough to bump Cal to AAA, then yes, that might be a case of under-prioritizing the young talent. But in many ways that’s a good problem to have, and overall I think it’s still pretty unlikely.

SBRO

I don’t think Andujar is long for the roster, and Mitchell would be my 27th man as the roster is currently constructed. I can’t really argue that, as much as I stan for Mitchell either – as remote a possibility as it is, Andujar does have that monster season in the rearview, and if any semblance of that is still in him, that’s a level of play that Mitchell simply cannot touch. So it’s worth finding out for a couple months. The odds are way stacked against it, but lightning in a bottle and all that…

But of all the outfielders BC is collecting, Mitchell should absolutely be playing every day at Indy.

KirkV12

Looks like Cutch replaces Andujar on the roster, and Cal is in the exact same position as he was 2 weeks ago. That was easy.

ArkyWags

Cal rode a pretty high BABIP to get those numbers in Indy over 60 games. I think he’s mildly intriguing and should get some chances, but let’s not act like he’s a true value .330 hitter when that’s the highest he’s hit in the minors by nearly 60 points.
He also may be worse in the OF than Cutch, too.

esd4

This is a strawman. No one is “acting like he’s a true value .330 hitter.”

ArkyWags

You keep citing his performance at AAA, so it’s pretty clear you are putting a lot of stock in those 60 games.

esd4

This is called moving the goalposts. “Putting a lot of stock in” AAA performance is different than “acting like he’s a true value .330 hitter.”

steve_zielinski

What is a true value hitter? We can know he is a true value .330 hitter when he hits .330, which Mitchel did at Indianapolis in 2022. Does that mean he will hit .330 in the majors? No, it doesn’t. We’ll know soon enough if Mitchell can put up positive WAR numbers. Performance on the field —> capacity and establishes what that play can accomplish. Mitchell has a nice stroke. So, his recent minor league performance is credible. He has nothing to prove at AAA.

The Pirates should give him a first baseman’s mitt.

capirate

McCutchen coming back to Pittsburgh makes me wonder if this will be his final season as a player.

KirkV12

Jason Mackey suggested in his PG article that both sides want him to finish his career in the Burgh. If he seems to be a good fit with the new look Pirates, or if he shows he has more in the tank and wants to play another season, both sides are open to doing another one year deal for ‘24. But this could also be the last year if those scenarios don’t play out.

john_fluharty

Wondering the same thing

roberto

I suspect so. Wonderful!

b mcferren

have they announced him as a player or the manager of the team?

phieralph

Frank Robinson 2.0

steve_zielinski

I thought this too.

esd4

I guess if the plan is to DFA Andujar and have Cutch replace him as short side of a DH platoon, this isn’t a totally stupid move. And I guess he’s also a better option to spell Suwinski/Mitchell in the OF against tough lefties. But if it’s anyone other than Andujar leaving, or if the plan is to make Cutch the full-time starter in a corner outfield spot, I’ll have to resume being pissed off.

PirateRican21

They don’t have to DFA Andujar, Joe has options and McCutchen basically is supposed to do what Joe was brought in to do. The signings and moves made so far are weird to me. Santana and Choi are very similar and displaces players that should get a look, Joe and Cutch are similar, Vazquez might end up sending Oviedo to AAA when he has proven that he’s a big leaguer…..let’s hope it works out!

Bucs'N'Pucks (Jeff Reed)

Joe having options is why Andujar may get DFA’d, cause Andujar can’t just be sent down to Indy. Now, even though he has options, Joe could be as well since they have a dozen other OFs with options, and Joe isn’t immediately needed at big league level anymore

SBRO

I think Andujar makes the opening day roster unless he faceplants in spring training, but I think he’s on a pretty short leash.

My updated thinking as of the Cutch signing is the Pirates have Cutch-Newman-Suwinski/Joe in the OF and Andujar is a 4-corners guy. Little 3B, little 1B, some OF corners, but basically he’s a bat.

Mitchell goes back to AAA, which is crowded AF – something’s definitely going to give there.

What’s still a little weird is the middle infield. They need a starting 2B and a backup SS/2B, and I have a hard time believing they’re going to roll with two of Castro, Bae and Marcano, mostly because none of them can actually play SS. I’m still > 50/50 that they’ll sign a backup MI. Iglesias and Simmons are still out there, and they both fit that whole veteran vibe Cherington’s been on this offseason.

Bucs'N'Pucks (Jeff Reed)

Upper levels of minors is going to be interesting as there’s a lot of higher profile prospects, while also getting to the point of just all around being too many bodies.

SBRO

I’m already past the point of assuming just because a guy logged some innings at Indy last year, he’s getting a placement in Indy this year. Gorski and Shackleford in particular I could see opening the season in Altoona. Guys they like, but they’re cramming down on AAA with other guys they like (or at least guys with a 40+ FV).

PirateRican21

It will be a bit weird if they DFA Andujar after he was the first to sign his arbitration. I know things have change since Nov, but still. Still hoping is Vilade.

bucsws2014

One of these days Andujar is going to become Steve Pearce.

Wilbur Miller

Interesting take . . . .

bucsws2014

Happy to have him back @PNC, but am realistic about what he brings. Even when he was MVP material, he was horrible as a PH. And he really not all that good as a DH (85 wRC+). He’s hit much better when he’s playing the field. Hopefully a year as a near-full time DH has him better mentally prepared for the role, but that’s yet to be seen. I can’t pretend to know what he’s thinking as a DH, but his K rate last year was waaay higher when DHing vs playing the field.

ArkyWags

Looking at his K rate as DH in one season is the epitome of making a big deal about small sample sizes.

bucsws2014

I’m willing to listen to any credible rationale to account for the difference. It’s known that some players don’t adapt to the role. If you’re gonna go with “random noise”, don’t bother replying.

Shultzie31

I would think it has to do with just being more involved/engaged in the game. For a guy who used to be “the guy” it has to be tough mentally. If he struggles as a PH it makes sense he would struggle essentially being a Ph 3 times a night

ArkyWags

So you think 82 games is enough to make a conclusion that he can’t adapt to a DH role? I’ll go with the most logical solution: how about he’s a 35 year old player towards the end of his career who is limited as a hitter now? Sounds more logical for his numbers there than “oh he can’t handle the DH role.”

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bucsws2014

Which explains why his K rate as a DH is 9% higher, his BA is 70 points lower, and his OBP is 80 pts lower as a DH. Sure, makes perfect sense.

ArkyWags

And you think that’s enough to make a conclusion he can’t DH? 82 games?

Wilbur Miller

One good side benefit here — No more Cutch in a Brewers’ uni. That’s like dressing the Pope up as Ronald McDonald.

PiratePrimate

Better to dress him up as Peter Rabbit

Bucs'N'Pucks (Jeff Reed)

I thought he might try and get the whole NL Central tour, much like Jagr almost completed the Atlantic Division

AdministrativeSky236

Any talk of hockey hurts me based on the pens showing tonight…

JimEastTennessee

THAT was an awful look last year.


Danatural08

Hopefully they got a package deal to include Petrina McCutchen (andrew’s mom) as well. She was a dynamite national anthem singer

1979andCounting

BC clearly decided 3 years of “seeing what we got” was enough. As have 99.9% of the fan base. I don’t think Cutch moves the needle on W/L’s but it’s certainly a shot at selling some season tickets and bringing veteranosity. It’s a good day to welcome back the hometown kid! As long as Cutch doesn’t totally suck, which is a possibility you know.

1979andCounting

Cutch’s claim to fame as a small-statured player, was his bat speed. Somebody want to research his barrels and EV in 2022 versus previous 5 years? That might give us an idea of what to expect in ’23.

Anthony Murphy

That sounds like a fun P2Daily to dig into those numbers. Too bad we won’t be able to compare it to his time in Pittsburgh

NMR

Slightly above league average in barrel rate and average exit velo.

Hit fourseam fastballs better than any other pitch last year.

Guy can still hit, probably a league-average bat at this point.

1979andCounting

He was a guy who often hit HRs into the first two rows. Just don’t know if he has enough pop anymore. I think he can still stroke the singles and doubles, but the OPS is probably on its way down.

NMR

Definitely an OBP guy now, that’s for sure.

bucsws2014

His OBP (.289) sucked at a DH. You can draw your own conclusions as to whether that’s SSS or if he presses or does something different when all he’s expected to do is hit.

1979andCounting

17 dingers last year. Don’t see that in PNC, but hoping he’ll prove me wrong.

b mcferren

missing the point

he could be first base coach for all that matters

point is that Cutch has baseball storybook magic and that is why we will win the pennant in 2023

Darkstone42

I wanted a more aggressive offseason from the Bucs, but I’ve been mostly happy with what they’ve done. Connor Joe is the only move I couldn’t quite grasp, given how bad he was away from Coors.

But they’ve added veterans who have won, and who still have just enough in the tank to make the team better this year, an important step toward contention.

This season, I estimate they’ll figure out if Cruz can actually handle short, if his arm and athleticism make up in high-difficulty plays for what he maybe lacks in consistency (or if he can develop a little more consistency). If he can’t all the outfielders except Reynolds and Suwinski are off the books after the season, and they can move him there and hunt for a SS in the offseason. If he sticks, they add a long-term OF solution instead. Likewise, they’ll have some idea of whether Keller, Contreras, Burrows, and Priester will all be viable rotation options, and they’ll know what they need to add at SP next offseason.

But overall, the 2023 team is better, at least on paper, than the 2022 team was heading into ST. That’s a step in the right direction, and they should be fun to watch, at least for a while. Here’s hoping for good debuts from Endy Rodriguez, Henry Davis, and Nick Gonzalez, too. Fingers crossed.

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Shultzie31

Agree on Joe. The fact they still don’t know about Cruz at ss infuriates me. What the fuck has all this losing been for? Guy could have 3 years of experience at being a somewhat competent outfielder by now

NorCal Buc

Andrew McCutchen, Rich Hill, Carlos Santana and Austin Hedges remind me of an era not long ago, when this team added other veterans who nearly everyone whined were too old and over the hill. I’m thinking Russell Martin, Francisco Liriano and his brother Francisco Cervelli, and of course AJ Burnett.

I know the case can be made that our current, young upside players are not as progressed as that team of Cutch, Starling, Walker, and Pedro Alvarez. But, I do not recall any upside pitching on that team.

I would make the case that our current crop of young pitching potential is FAR more ready than the nobodys we had in 2013. I’m excited to see the growth of Bae, Hays, Suwinski, Castro, Cruz and ALL of the pitching prospects, combined with this veteran leadership.

THIS leadership quality the upside of our young team may provide the boost of today’s vets, akin to the boost we saw from Burnett, Martin et al.

Wilbur Miller

who nearly everyone whined were too old and over the hill. I’m thinking Russell Martin, Francisco Liriano and his brother Francisco Cervelli, and of course AJ Burnett.

I don’t remember that reaction at all. Dejan freaked out about Martin’s BA, but that was about it.

I remember a lot of excitement at PC when AJ showed up there, although the bunting mishap interrupted it for a bit.

steve_zielinski

I gripped about the Burnette and Liriano acquisitions. Eventually, I needed to wipe egg off my face.

SBRO

I beg to differ on the pitching there. In 2013 the system had plenty of talent in the upper minors. Cole was at Indy for half the season before his callup, and Taillon, Kingham and Sadler anchored the AA rotation. You can point to Kingham and Sadler not blossoming, but that’s hindsight. Pitching prospects, man. Injuries killed those two, like it does to so many.

I think it’s far more even compared to what the system has now than you’re giving credit for.

Catch_22

I don’t rem Sadler being much of a prospect nor do I rem him being a sidelined from injury like Kingham.

SBRO

You’re right, he didn’t have the same pedigree as the others and was more of a performance-over-tools guy with a pitch to contact approach, but nevertheless he reached AAA 3 years after being drafted out of JuCo and put up good numbers all the way through. He lost part of 2015 and all of 2016 to TJS and that was it.

I’ll note the fact that he was still in the league as recently as 2021 (albeit as a reliever – but a reliever with a 0.67 ERA/2.48 FIP!) is an indication that major league talent was always there, even after his injury history.

So yeah. 3 guys or 4 guys, the point is the cupboard wasn’t bare.

Catch_22

Ah, good catch. He did fly through the system and he had a good arm (mid 90’s heat) I forgot all about him having TJ.

Yeah, the cupboard certainly wasn’t bare in 2013. They also had glasnow in the system then as well.

Mblee24

I’ve been calling for this all off-season. I just hope this doesn’t mean Reynolds is traded. I am still in the boat that they will get a deal done. DK’s one shot today gave me a little more hope on a deal happening. With saying all of that if the rangers offer Leiter, white, and Carter I can’t see how you say no.

jaygray007

Now bring me a nice live arm for the pen

b mcferren

Chapman!

Let the buying continue

Duffy for the rotation
JayHay for the Bench
Roberto Perez for the bench

trade Brubaker for Krilloff

Shultzie31

IF… you could get Chapman for 5m or so then hell yeah. But wish in one hand…

Shultzie31

Chapman is a reclamation project but still not in the pirates budget. Other than a wildcard on duffy I dont see any value in the rest of the list either

BonDrone

The deal is for $5 million. It sounds like the Pirates got a coming home discount considering the cost of free agents this year.

Catch_22

He was worth 0.3 fWAR

8M = 1fWAR

Pretty close to market value, if anything a slight overpay.

BonDrone

His rWAR was 1.1.

Catch_22

I don’t believe anyone uses rWAR.

esd4

It’s more commonly called bWAR, but everyone uses it. It’s what you’ll find at bb-Ref. The more important issue is that teams (should) pay for what a player is projected to do, not what he did last year. And any reasonable team would project Cutch to be the short side of a DH platoon and a fourth outfielder. ZiPS projects 0.7 WAR in 482 PA, which obviously isn’t good enough to be an everyday player (on a real team, anyway), so in the bench/platoon role he fits he’s maybe a 0.4 WAR player or so? So yeah, they overpaid. And that’s even before you get into the fact that he’s totally superfluous and does nothing to help this particular roster, while also blocking players who might potentially help in the future and need MLB playing time now.

Shultzie31

I’m with you but they didn’t overpay for the ROI of this move. We all know it’s a business. It’s the opposite of the liriano trade or cutting nicasio. This franchise needs a pr win. And as much as I want to move on I can’t help but be ok with this

Catch_22

I’m with you, but again, I don’t think anyone uses bWAR. fWAR is the standard.

MLB Network and all the analysis use fWAR.

skliesen

I haven’t been this giddy since I walked into the theater to watch Top Gun 2!

#IFeelTheNeedForCutch

ishman

Good grief. Scrolling these comments is like scrolling replies to a Kody tweet. 🤦🤦. The guy who brought this team back from under .500 hell is coming back for a reunion at the end of his career. This is a good thing, even if it’s just a nostalgia thing.

NMR

The overlap of fans mocking this and fans who claim to want long term contract extensions for core players is why the latter is an absolutely fucking terrible idea.

We’ll sell our own brother down the Ohio the minute his play slipped, and that’s an inevitability for all baseball players.

ishman

Imagine paying Cutch 20-25 mil this year had they locked him up with a second extension. Then the complaining of the trade with prospects going out to unload the contract.

ravidesai1984

It would have made the cost for dumping Liriano look lite.

Darkstone42

I want long-term contract extensions, but I also want them to be front- or middle-loaded. Like, I want to buy out Reynolds last arb year at, like $25 million to pay him something in the $10-15 million range for his age 34-5 seasons. I’d do similar for Cruz, Contreras, Keller, Rodriguez and Davis if they show well in their first couple seasons. The question is just when in the contract term does it start dipping. Right away, starting with the highest dollar year, or somewhere in the middle.

Shultzie31

Yes, this. Let’s not see 30mm payroll to top out at 100. Let’s see a consistent 100 with front loaded contracts through the shitty years so we can have the flexibility to add when competitive. It’s not like the 300m we saved over the last 5 years will show up at once. We’ll just be told to appreciate 115

NMR

Big, big fan of that during the tanking years…but hopefully we’re about done with that BS forever.

Gets a lot harder to do when you’re actually trying to win. A dollar is a dollar.

Danatural08

Villade has to be the 40 man casualty right? But have been somewhat surprised by their DFA choices recently

jaygray007

Could still be someone like Yohan Ramirez

AdministrativeSky236

Reynolds trade DFA casualty?

Danatural08

No the Cutch signing, they’ll need to dfa someone once he passes physical & officially announce signing

BonDrone

Connor Joe should now probably look into where to live in Indianapolis. That is unless this was done to ease the reaction of the fan base because a Reynolds trade is imminent.

leefieux

A 99 OPS+ beats an 88 OPS+, right? But, Joe can still field. cutch is strictly DH. I think it affects Choi and Andujar

Catch_22

I don’t see a place for Andujar. Cutch and Joe make him superfluous.

jaygray007

Cutch everyday LF. Joe platoon with suwinski in rf. Andujar platoon with choi.

I think they all make the team

13 pos players
Cutch, Reynolds, suwinski, Hayes, cruz, castro, choi, santana, hedges, catcher2, bae, andujar, Joe

Seems like the plan is to slap castro or bae to short when cruz is hurt or resting, which is probably fine

Catch_22

I don’t get the Newman trade.

They really don’t have a SS on the roster.

jaygray007

i mean, cruz is gonna start 90 pct of the games there when healthy.

its just a matter of what to do on his off days and when he gets nicked up mid game.

every player i listed in my 13 pos players plays a pretty defined and necessary role.

i think bae will be fine there.

maybe we see an andrelton type given a NRI, and they can get away with sending Joe to AAA? maybe?

leefieux

Probably. But, I’d rather see if Andujar can capture some rookie magic over Connor Joe. But, in the long run, both are just 2023’s version of Chavis in all likelihood.

Catch_22

BC pounded the OB drum all off-season.

Joe, Cutch, Santana, Choi get on base.

Andujar does not.

leefieux

Hah! Ever really noticed that about Andujar. I say “Cut the free swinging dolt, then”! 🥸🥸🥸

BonDrone

Joe can be optioned. I believe both Choi and Andujar will be given a look to start the season.

leefieux

Choi, being LH is DEFINITELY superfluous. I think he goes somewhere. Of course, we’re talking about a bunch of spare parts, so does it really matter in the end? None of these guys should be full time starters. Even Cutch.

NorCal Buc

Choi is the leadership for Bae and other Korean born players. Very significant role for Choi

1979andCounting

I think Bae is the only Korean even thru the minors. Choi’s significant role is he can flat out hit. That’s why he was signed.

BonDrone

Santana hits lefties better than righties so I think the 1st base platoon stays and therefore Choi stays. They signed Andujar early so he stays. As the only guy with options Joe goes to Indy. Sending Joe to Indy allows them to keep all of their options.

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clemo83

So, if we trade Bryan Reynolds, can we flip McCutchen at the deadline for Bryan Reynolds?

BonDrone

Only if Cutch reverts back to 2015 and Reynolds has season like 2020.

b mcferren

what Crick doing these days?

leefieux

Still punching out Felipe, I hope.

robertkasperski

A real shame for Crick that he did not follow the Crash Davis advice and hit the pitcher who shall remain nameless with his left hand. Crick has never been the same since he had to have his pitching hand surgically repaired.

KirkV12

Love how many layers deep this particular comment thread goes haha

docdon385

They’re throwing us a bone to make the fans feel good about something. It’s largely a PR move but, having said that, I like it a lot. He’s a respected former MVP who, as far as I can tell, is liked by almost everyone and who had his best years in Pitt. His presence and persona can only help the young guys (including Reynolds I hope) see how things should be done and that they CAN be done as a Pirate. It won’t block the young players to any significant extent and it might encourage them to do the little things it takes to get better.

This now amounts to somewhere around $30mil they’ve spent on basically one year players. Could it be the start of some actual evidence they want to have winning team in the near future? If they will spend the same amount and a little bit more next year on actual major league players and some of the prospects continue to develop this year could be the bridge to winning. Optimism in the morning? Hey, it’s the off season. Why not?

Anthony

This was exactly where they were trending for those paying attention. I’m more encouraged by the fact that they got here without a bump in attendance. The AM signing definitely helps with PR and combined with a more competitive team could push attendance and revenues much higher. Wash, rinse, repeat.

ArkyWags

All the signings are for one year. Which is good, I’m glad they did that. Let’s not get carried away though, till we see what they do next offseason.

SouthernBuc

“The head questions the signing, the heart loves it.” I saw this elsewhere so I am stealing it as it sums up my thoughts.

RAS TN

On the face of it, it should be good news for McCutchen and the Pirates. Alas, I think this is the leading indicator that Reynolds will be traded, which is not good news…

leefieux

If Cutch could still play defense, I’d agree. At this point, he is a RH DH and occasional RF/LF platoon.

RAS TN

I do not think he is a replacement for Reynolds in CF, he is just a replacement period. He will provide veteran leadership and allow whoever the CF replacement is to further develop either at the MLB level or Milb level…

The Pirates will not spend monies on both…

leefieux

So how does this portend a trading of Reynolds? He isn’t much better than .Connor Joe, yet nobody thought that.

RAS TN

First off monies, then the outfield candidates far exceed the opportunities open, but most of all BC wants more SP and Reynolds can provide that upper-level prospect…

leefieux

Our outfield ‘candidates’ are in name only, imo. Other than Reynolds, I doubt that any of our ‘candidates’ start regularly on a first division ballclub. Maybe Suwinski platoons,, but that is it. All of the rest are suspects. There’s not a sure fire ‘he’s gotta play’ OF’er in our system.

Wabbit_Season

I think Suwinski improves this year.

leefieux

I hope you think correctly.

Wabbit_Season

And, I think you’ve been cutting and pasting your comment that Cutch can only DH and hit lefties and he’s a horrible outfielder.

I think you’ve posted that like 8 times that I’ve counted so far.

I am also hoping that Cutch is maybe better than you hope this season. Yes, he’s older. But yes, he knows his way around the field.

There are several guys on this team past their prime. I would hope for some chemistry, which is not silly to hope for but is silly to expect it to work out.

Team chemistry means the team is greater than the sum of its parts.

I think the writers here are pretty clear-eyed about all this when they talk about the team improving over last year because the team last year was spare parts.

I look further back to the way Stargell played late in his career. Generous with his Stargell stars and had the respect that if Pops said you done good, then you done good.

There has not been a player with that much gravity come through here since until Cutch.

Honestly, I don’t know what the team’s plans for him are. But you don’t bench Cutch. You can rest him, sure. But if you want him to do the things he can do and maybe have one of those bounce back years that only the “want to” in a player can accomplish, he’ll have to be treated right, and he MIGHT give you Pirate gold.

He’ll win us some games, I think.

leefieux

I only cut and pasted SEVEN times! Sheesh. 🙄🙄🙄

RAS TN

The whole team is as you put it “in name only” and are really suspects to this point…

I hope that they do not trade Reynolds this constant trading of the best player needs to stop, can’t build a team this way…

skliesen

It’s the system MLB/MLBPA wants. They force small market teams to either gamble on a player pre-arb and guarantee him money by signing him to an extension, or trading him away before FA. A good/great player on a small market team would be foolish to sign an extension during arbitration, as the team will be looking to pay below market value. It’s too risky for teams on a tight budget to both pay market value and take on risk of injury/poor performance.

So in short, Reynolds is going to be traded and so will all the other top players who don’t take the road Hayes (and Cutch before him) did. Accept it for what it is.

Catch_22

9 OF’ers on the 40.

Next shoe to drop is Reynolds getting traded.

I’m guessing he’s gone in the next few days to the Rangers. Leiter, White, +

PirateRican21

Reposting this!

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KirkV12

I would absolutely take this trade. That’s 3 top 100 prospects at positions of long term need, plus an additional interesting prospect. Carter and White are close to ML-ready, and could be up by midseason or start of next year, which is right when the window really opens. Good trade for both sides.

NoVaBurgher

I wouldn’t hate this trade

leefieux

Pick one of those prospects to make it! That’s the odds. We have BR for three more years. Keep him.

NorCal Buc

Reynold os a lot happier today, with further talent acquired around him, Bae, Hayes, Suwinski and Cruz.

NMR

Keeping him will only lower those odds my man.

WIN with him or trade him, only two options that make any amount of sense.

Just holding serve is a waste.

leefieux

How is keeping Reynolds ‘Holding serve’? And how does trading him for multiple prospects improve the team when only one of them (if we’re lucky) will become a good to very good major leaguer like Reynolds?

NMR

If you keep him and DON’T build around him you get the same crappy team we’ve had, holding serve, and even one good player on a future competitive team is better than none, which is what they’re increasingly likely to get the longer they hold onto him.

leefieux

Nobody said that we wouldn’t build around him. So, essentially I agree with you. 😇😇

Heck, if we trade him, who DO we build around?

skliesen

Cruz, Endy, Davis, QP, Johnson, etc.

After today, I think BC is hoping to strike lightning in a bottle this year. He is gambling this mash up of aging vets on the downslope of their career will mix well with the young talent, including Reynolds, and somehow be competitive. If it doesn’t work out that way, they trade/release them and play the kids the last couple months or more.

Anthony

I agree, some will work and some will not. As long as they work in the aggregate, that’s all that matters.

leefieux

Bad gamble, then.

skliesen

Probably, but definitely a better gamble than Marisnick and JVM.

RaisetheJollyRancherGirl

Marisnick was a very good defender so no.

skliesen

You’re saying Cutch will provide less value to this team than Jake did last year?

FFS!

leefieux

Cutch is no longer an OFer. DH only.

roberto

That seems harsh. Most OF plays are not that hard. He can still run a bit, so I respectfully disagree.

leefieux

Harsh or accurate? Over 60% of his games last year were at DH. And when he DID play the OF, metrics had him as well below average. Do you really want and OF’er out there who can only catch the ‘easy’ balls?

RaisetheJollyRancherGirl

Leiter absolutely sucked in his first year of proball. No thank you.

jaygray007

right. only way a leiter trade works for me is he’s like the 3rd best piece coming.

I’m a big Evan Carter guy so if Carter is coming back as the headliner, then sure, toss on Leiter.

if Leiter is the top piece, then i’m kinda puking.

AdministrativeSky236

Carter, white, leiter and im a happy camper

Catch_22

His first taste of pro ball. He has the pedigree and just needs an acclimation period. K rates are strong, but got hurt with the BBs

b mcferren

SS Cruz
LF *Cutch / Canaan
2B Castro / Tucupito
RF Suwinski / *Joe
DH Andujar / Mitchell
1B *Santana / *Choi
3B Hayes
C *Hedges / Heinaman
CF Bae

Still need an infielder (JayHay pls) and I wouldn´t rule out Roberto Perez resigning (catcher who speaks spanish because Roansy and Ortiz do not speak english)

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Darkstone42

Isn’t Bae a SS, who’s added OF for versatility? I think they’re fine on IF, unless they’re adding an actual long-term impact guy. Bae’s positional versatility will also allow them to keep from benching any of those young guys too long, at least until or unless someone locks down a spot with their performance.

1979andCounting

Bae doesn’t have the arm for SS. Hoping he’ll play 2B or OF or late inning PR.

skliesen

He has enough of one to play there 1x/week.

bradlej31

Keith law in 2021:

“This was my first look at Ji-Hwan Bae in person since seeing him in spring training a few years ago. He’s at least a 60 defender at short, maybe a 70, with great range to his left, a plus arm, good hands, and very good instincts on groundballs. “

1979andCounting

I haven’t seen a plus arm. He may be passable if he has the range and fundamentals.

roberto

I suspect Triolo will be the extra infielder. He can handle multiple positions well.

b mcferren

I too think there is a chance Triolo breaks camp with the team

leefieux

Cutch would be horrible in PNC’s LF.

ArkyWags

So put him in right and Jack-Jack in left.

leefieux

And let runners go from first to third at will?

AdministrativeSky236

Could use the dickerson tactic and just get the ball in asap even if not a super strong throw

leefieux

Dickerson played LF.

Scam likely

That’s a 95 loss team, baby steps.

phieralph

I’m out to breakfast, open up the PiratesProspects app, see the headline, and let out an audible gasp. Heads in the restaurant turn, and I quickly click the link. The radio overhead blares , “She’s some kind of wonderful! My baby! My baby!” And that’s about right. My baby is back in the Burgh. Also, from the same song…
“I don’t need a whole lots of money
I don’t need a big fine car
I got everything that a man could want
I got more than I could ask for”.
Not gonna see a championship next year (PROBABLY, MAYBE??) but my baby is back.

NoVaBurgher

…..there’s an app?

phieralph

No, I’m a liar, my bad. Just URL.

Correct me if I’m wrong but there was at one point wasn’t there?

john_fluharty

Yes a long time ago

Catch_22

What RH hitting OF prospect is Cutch blocking? You guys and this narrative.

They’re actually helping the young outfielders. This allows guys like Suwinski not to be embarrassed facing lefty arms.

jaygray007

ultimately, this move does put Cal Mitchell into AAA. so i’m sure it’s not really about RH vs LH. i guess that’s what people are upset about? i dont even know anymore lol.

i personally am fine with having cutch instead of mitchell on the team. Mitchell can marinate.

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Catch_22

I have no problem whatsoever with Cal Mitchell getting fined tuned in AAA.

Did he look like someone that should be starting in the Show last year? Not to me he didn’t.

rrlindsey

Fined tuned? He hit. 339 at AAA last year. What else does he need to do?

Anthony

Start a long-tossing program!?

AdministrativeSky236

I have wondered about things like this, something like mitchell’s speed and lack of armfeel fairly easily corrected compared to other skills like in-game power or approach. The man needs to long toss/weighted balls and hit a sprint program and he buys himself an extra idk ~100 ABs this year by being a decent defender

Catch_22

hit major league pitching

esd4

Okay, so we should give him the chance, then, right? Rather than signing vets to block him?

esd4

I’m sorry, did Cutch look like someone who should be starting in the Show last year?

Catch_22

Compared to Cal Mitchell? Yes, he looked like a contributor and Cal looked like AAAA fodder.

bradlej31

Cal was 23 last year. (For reference Swaggerty was 25) He destroyed AAA at a young age.

esd4

moving the goalposts

leefieux

I love Cal, but he looks like a AAAA player. But, he IS a better fielder than Cutch at this point in Andrew’s career.

bradlej31

He was 23 last year. Reynolds didn’t make it to Majors until he was 24

Catch_22

IS he a better fielder than Cutch?

leefieux

At this point, it would be close. Check out Cutch’s fielding stats. Add in his weak arm, and he is a definite liability. A couple of posters have commented on his stats.

NMR

Anyone who thinks Cruz deserves to sniff SS but also that Cutch can’t play a corner OF spot has bought into narrative and nothing else.

esd4

You don’t think there’s anything rational about giving an opportunity to a young, talented player in the hopes that he can make the most of his immense physical gifts, while also disliking the idea of letting an old, declining vet with a long track record of poor defense play OF?

NMR

Yes thank you, this is exactly the kind of narrative-based logic that leads one to believe one player who stinks at his position “can” play it and another who stinks at his position “can’t” play it.

esd4

You haven’t answered my question at all. What I’m asking is if you reject the idea that it might make sense to let a talented young player try a position he’s not good at in hopes of improving while also not wanting to let an old player continue playing a position he’s never been good at. I’m suggesting that the difference between a 24-year-old with six years of team control remaining and a 36-year-old signed to a one-year contract is more than just a narrative one, and that it might be reasonable to have different goals, priorities, and utilizations of materially different players, even if those players share the trait of not being very good at their primary defensive position. Another way to put it might be that I’m suggesting that “one player who stinks at his position ‘can’ play it and another who stinks at his position ‘can’t’ play it” is a narrative that no one other than you has indulged in.

ArkyWags

Or they’re sniffing something…it’s funny how similar this regime is to the last. NH couldn’t figure out how to move Cutch out of CF when he shouldn’t have been there and handled it clumsily. This regime will no doubt do the same when Cruz absolutely has to move off SS and did so already with the OF experiment last year.

Anthony

I don’t know about that; this regime seems to have a much shorter leash.

NMR

Read my mind!

john_fluharty

I was probably a quick read.

steve_zielinski

A snarky reply?

john_fluharty

I couldn’t resist. He left himself open.

1979andCounting

Maybe…….maybe……but doubtful that Cutch’s leg and offseason P/T have added back a step or three in speed. If not, he really can’t cover ground anymore.

AdministrativeSky236

His sprint speeds were still 90th percentile last year IIRC, i think his jumps and all were bad. Dont know that means he can cut it in the OF but maybe they think there something they can work with

1979andCounting

The eye test of watching him play a few games in OF was a definite no. It was lack of getting jumps but also his quickness, lateral or incoming, was also a no. Maybe his leg has improved this offseason…….don’t know if that’s even possible.

Mtgj

162 games makes a long year. All of these guys will get a chance and if someone breaks thru I’m certain cutch will not block them.
I think it’s much more likely that cutch plays bad and it’s tough to watch him struggle than he plays great and blocks prospects. Either way this adds depth to the roster and provides leadership.

This signing reminds me of Barmes who ended up playing solid and being the bridge to a younger shortstop. Hopefully cutch has a solid year and is the bridge to bae who plays great in triple A and comes up in the middle of summer to take most of the at bats that cutch got earlier in the year.

jaygray007

while the team isnt ~good~, i do appreciate the effort and mild amount of money spent to make the team ~better~.

i appreciate that they want some 78 win type vibes going into 2024 instead of 68 win vibes.

they didnt have to spend 30+ million on trades/FA’s, but they did in order to get better.

i’m not *happy*, as the team still isnt *good*. but i appreciate that it is looking like they want the culture change to at least begin.

SBRO

Reading all your emphases I can’t stop thinking of Chris Farley doing air quotes on SNL.

For your viewing pleasure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdkkTV3pIa0

jaygray007

i needed this. thanks 🙂

god i cant believe he’s been gone so long or he was as young as he was

Wabbit_Season

he’s livin’ in a VAN down by the RIVER!!!!

what a loss.

esd4

This is a weird article on which to make this comment, since this move does not make the team any better, and in fact represents the same “culture” (namely, do whatever’s best for Nutting’s wallet) as ever. The move does nothing but draw more fans to the ballpark.

Anthony

You got to start somewhere…

The key to sustaining a competitive roster is getting attendance above 2.5M and keeping it there.

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skliesen

Let’s assume you’re correct and Cutch only draws fans. This leads to more revenue, and despite what some think, the only time Nutting spent $100 million on salaries was when PNC Park was packed the year before.

If you want him to open his wallet more next year, you should be overjoyed by this signing.

Anthony

They’re already at $110-$115M this year. But I agree, attendance is imperative.

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esd4

Nutting could open is wallet more now. He doesn’t need extra revenue from Cutch. The reason he doesn’t spend is because he’s a cheap, profit-motivated owner, not because the team doesn’t sell enough tickets. The idea that I should be overjoyed that he’ll make more money this year, in hopes that he’ll invest some of that extra money back into the team next year, is insulting. Instead of telling me I should be overjoyed at this cynical appeal to sentimentality, demand better from this organization.

skliesen

You’re almost certainly right. He could and should spend more. But it’s his team and his money. MLB & MLBPA don’t mandate he spend a minimum or maximum amount. Complaining about it serves no purpose. Staying away from the ballpark only ensures he spends even less.

The fact is the only time he spent $100 million is the year after they won 98 games and had something like 1 million more fans attend games than did last year.

So either support the team and enjoy whatever benefits that come with it (no matter how minuscule they are), or don’t support the team and guarantee smaller payrolls in the future.

It’s really that simple.

jaygray007

i assume cutch’s salary will be higher than the revenue that he’ll bring to the park, but maybe i’m off.

assuming his salary ends up around 6 million.

let’s assume 50 dollars per ticket.

to pay for him with additional ticket sales (ie, signing him just because it helps nuttings wallet), theyd need to sell 6,000,000 / 50 additional tickets, or an additional 120,000 tickets.

The pirates drew 1.25 million fans last year.

i dont think andrew mccutchen will increase ticket sales by 10 percent all alone. and that was with a really aggressive $ per ticket estimate. likely more fans will be needed.

i think Cutch, Santana, Choi, joe, cutch, hedges, etc will make the team a bit better and might all combine to increase ticket sales a little. but cutch alone isnt going to pay for himself with ticket sales.

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SBRO

Divided by 81 home games. Do you think 1500 extra fans might show up every night to see the face of the last competitive Pirates team? That feels a little more believable. Shoot, they’ll pack the house the last few games of the year.

CTBucco

Cutch will be traded at the deadline, so people better get their tickets for late July.

Sorry. Couldn’t resist.

jaygray007

i think there’ll be select games for which people will come to just see andrew mccutchen because andrew mccutchen is andrew mccutchen.

i think increasing attendence by 10 percent all alone is a lot to ask.

people arent gonna just show up to see andrew mccutchen because andrew mccutchen is andrew mccutchen in the middle of may or whatever.

i think he’ll add some tickets when he’s going for hit 2000. i think he’ll maybe add some tickets in teh very beginning and end of the season.

but no, he’s not going to increase ticket sales by 10 percent just by being andrew mccutchen.

jaygray007

mayyyybe he packs the place when he’s going for hit 2000? mayyyybee???

even that, best case scenario, will be an extra 10k tickets or something

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RaisetheJollyRancherGirl

Imagine being Travis Swaggerty this morning

ArkyWags

Travis should have hit more, if he didn’t want this to happen.

Danatural08

i don’t know this, but i bet he’s waking up with a dime next to him, has a pretty nice vehicle & house, very little if any debt, and still has a job that pays to play baseball. Not too shabby.

Bryan Hall

I assumed it was a bad day in the Vilade household. I think if they are signing McCutchen it means that they are trading Reynolds. This opens up the CF position for Swaggerty or Bae.

b mcferren

this

jaygray007

im as big a swaggerty truther as we have around here, but i mean… if he doesnt like it then, play better.

agent00

i forgot he was even in the org tbh

SBRO

Apparently you’re not the only one. BC too.

JoeNastasi

So much for the plan, he’s no better then the prospects at this point & now he’ll take 400 – 500 AB’s away from someone who could grow into part of the future. All the money they’ve spent would’ve been better spent on extensions for Keller, Contreras, Cruz & perhaps Reynolds

leefieux

Cutch will NOT take 400-500 ABs from anyone. RH DH and PH. he can no longer play the OF.

jaygray007

its not like those players just disappear. theyre still developing.

sometimes i feel like people forget that development can happen in the majors, and sometiems people forget that development can happen in the minors.

the only actual bad thing would be a good prospect coming up and riding the bench in > half the games. i dont think thats gonna happen to anyone.

rrlindsey

Every time I think Cheerington can’t prove it anymore that he doesnt know what he is doing, he proves me wrong. Couldn’t make it up.
Keep blocking young players idiot.
Who are we losing on the 40 man this week for another washed up veteran?
Unreal

RaisetheJollyRancherGirl

Cutch really shouldn’t see a single inning in the OF and they ought to cut or trade Choi and stick him at DH. The last time he saw over a hundred innings in the OF (2021) he was -7 OAA out there and his arm is bottom third in the league.

NMR

Now do Oneil Cruz…

RaisetheJollyRancherGirl

I don’t think Cruz should play SS either!

NMR

Fair enough!

RaisetheJollyRancherGirl

but but but—I should say—Cruz has a better shot at becoming defensively passable or neutral than Cutch does.

leefieux

RH DH and PH, that is all he is good for these days. That and the PR boost.

jaygray007

santana and choi will probably lead the team in DH time. Cutch will probably play a lot of OF.

Darkstone42

Someone has to play 1B, and both those guys can handle it. And with one of them at 1B every day (probably sharing time) it opens up DH time for Cutch and Andujar. All their DH options, though, are going to have to play some time in the field this season. I’m sure Andujar will spell Hayes at 3B a couple times, and get some corner OF days, as well.

jaygray007

vs most righties, choi and santana will be the DH and 1b.

sure, vs lefties they can DH cutch, 1b Santana, and LF Andujar, but that certainly doesnt solve the “LF wont have ideal defense” problem. i’d put money on cutch being closer to average than Andujar.

leefieux

I sure hope not. He would make Josh Bell look good.

JoeNastasi

His arm was never that good

RaisetheJollyRancherGirl

Agreed

b mcferren

after a roll of consecutive championships, we will look back at this moment and say this is exactly when it started to turn it all around

Bryan Hall

This smells like a deal for Reynolds is close. This will distract from an unpopular deal. It also prevents a lot of MLB time for Bae, Mitchell, Smith-Ngigba if Reynolds isn’t here. In my opinion it’s only a good move if Reynolds is dealt.

leefieux

Why? If this was prime Cutch, I’d agree. Cutch is nothing but a DH at this point.

AdministrativeSky236

This is a great point. Reynolds to the rangers for a package headed by white and carter…

postal911

I get that feeling also, which if the right deal is made, I’m totally onboard.

b mcferren

yes please – send away the bum that doesn´t want to be here

DangerWilRobnsn

Let him be the starting DH and let the youngsters sort themselves out. If none of them step up he can take away some innings in the OF, but let them figure out what they have (or don’t have) FIRST.

Bryan Hall

Didn’t we just sign several DHs this winter?

Wilbur Miller

It’s a new strategy to improve the defense. Play everybody at DH.

Bryan Hall

I’ll take that as evidence that we have moved past the “trade for everyone’s utility infielders” phase of the rebuild. Overall, that’s a positive.

Wilbur Miller

Oddly enough, the guy this renders superfluous is Choi. They didn’t need LH hitting to begin with, they’ve got Santana and Joe to play first, and they need DH time for Cutch, who’s a defensive liability any more.

roberto

Agreed. Seeing how this plays out will be interesting.

Wilbur Miller

Purely coincidental, no doubt, but Choi’s the one arb guy who hasn’t settled.

leefieux

Maybe they can trade Choi to whichever team next claims Lewin Diaz?

The Cobra

This is just a feel good moment for a franchise that hasn’t given us one in a while. Now if only Marc-Andre Fleury would come back to the Pens for one last season.

Now extend Reynolds, Cruz and Keller!!! Keep the roll going.

Wilbur Miller

Bob mulls extensions:

JimEastTennessee

I need CPR!

KirkV12

This is such a joy to wake up to. He is easily an upgrade from whoever just got bumped off the 26-man, but that doesn’t even matter. This brings joy to baseball and to the Pirates fanbase; obviously sentimental joy, but also joy in seeing each hit, catch, and dugout antic Cutch brings this year. That’s something that’s been seriously lacking at PNC. He may not be the answer to our losing problem, but we love Andrew McCutchen and it’s beautiful to get him back

Scam likely

Don’t get it, I thought they are rebuilding with young players and they are just getting older. Also he has been a primary DH the last few seasons so how does this fix the outfield situation?

jaygray007

if youre worried about cutch’s fielding, the alternative option was Cal Mitchell. He’s not a good fielder either.

i think cutch is probably gonna be a fine LF.

Wilbur Miller

Statcast has him as pretty bad since 2016, which is where the data starts. The one exception is 2022, but he didn’t play much. His sprint speed still grades as near-elite, but OF jumps are bottom fifth. Poor arm, also.

jaygray007

i mustve just looked at 2022 when i looked lol

regardless, DH is already gonna be mostly filled by the big boys santana and choi.

im sure cutch will play some DH, but those other guys will lead the team in DH PA.

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AdministrativeSky236

Probably just another ploy to keep Edney down forever as they are the only org in the league that would do that!

Scam likely

Yea, keep better players at indy is ALLWAYS GOOD STRATEGY.

Zack

Underrated benefit is how much fun it will be to watch a team with infectious personality.

This is a good day! Happy day (which are rare) as a Pirates fan!

chuck_conner

Catch joining the Buccos is the happiest I’ve ever been with clothes on. Just sayin.

Zack

😂

Danatural08

This signing is giving me a bucco bonor. 1800 BUYBUCS!

Retire21

For any other MLB team we would call it shrinkage …

jaygray007

he’s a really similar target to Carlos Santana. both bring still-great K and BB skills and have recent power outputs that lag behind what our eyeballs say they should be able to do. Granted, cutch doesnt have the same “shift” narratives.

oh well. worst case, he’s a guy who can still put up good AB’s. just a matter of where the BABIP and SLG land.

love getting that one last RH bat

b mcferren
LETS GO BUCS!!!
agent00